Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[mscoffman]

Picowatt:

You read my mind.  I was just whipping up a "drawing for the drawing challenged" about that issue.

To All:

Have a look at the attached diagram.  The voltages in the ground due to a SWER system or due to telluric currents are on the order of microvolts per meter (or something comparable to that).  Telluric currents are intermittent and change direction very slowly.  So how could putting a bunch of ground rods in your backyard be of any benefit in terms of picking up power from the ground alone?

MileHigh

Mile High,

Signal voltage levels are microvolts per meter required to drive the system. But electron currents are the *real deal*
all the electrons flowing for all voltage levels to transmit all power used in the "US" or whatever. This is a heavy duty
thing. You just need a way to bias the electron flow to flow around the toroids and then you step the current down
and the abject voltage up and you've captured it. By the way the captor multiplies real good at a DC current level
as well.

.S.MarkSCoffman

[MileHigh]

Here is a diagram showing how telluric currents are generated.  They are just eddy currents, no more than that.  Lenz's law.

Telluric currents are basically a giant whirlpool of current that might be 2000 kilometers in diameter.  They are slowwwwwww currents and intermittent.  There is no practical way to extract power from them.

Many people around here have been aware of telluric currents for years and have believed that they can be a source of power.  This is nothing more than self-deception.

[MileHigh]

Mile High,

Signal voltage levels are microvolts per meter required to drive the system. But electron currents are the *real deal*
all the electrons flowing for all voltage levels to transmit all power used in the "US" or whatever. This is a heavy duty
thing. You just need a way to bias the electron flow to flow around the toroids and then you step the current down
and the abject voltage up and you've captured it. By the way the captor multiplies real good at a DC current level
as well.

.S.MarkSCoffman

Sorry, but it sounds like fantasy talk to me.  "A way to bias the electron flow" -> an unexplained power source.  "Flow around the toroids" -> for all practical intents and purposes the telluric currents are DC and the toroidal transformer needs AC to work.  "The captor multiplies real good" -> an unexplained power source.

Let's assume one microvolt per meter in the soil due to telluric currents.  Imagine one cubic meter of soil that is one meter below the ground.  Let's assume that the current density in the soil is one microampere per square meter.

Therefore the cube of soil is dissipating (one microampere x one microvolt) = 10^12 watts, or one picowatt.

So when telluric currents are active and flowing in the ground, the dissipation of power in the ground is on the order of one picowatt per cubic meter of soil.

MileHigh

[ramset]

What a pleasant surprise it would be to find that a certain ground "array"
under "certain" conditions could harvest energy in this way.

I don't even see the fat lady around here yet......

Time will tell.

[MileHigh]

For emphasis, quoting Clarence again:

my experience is just to use the Captor output to power the charger and let it keep the battery at a constant top voltage charge and keep the whole system operating continually and use it.

Look at the attached graphic.  Is there really an answer to the question posed, or not?

You believers, if you can't answer the question, then the project is DEAD.  Save your time and your money, or get Clarence to answer the question to your satisfaction.