Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

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Nick Z
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I'm not here to discuss what you are claiming (with no proof at all), to all the members here to be nothing but "fakes". 
   Hoppy, as well as you MemoryMan, and others can start your own thread to fully discuss to your hearts content, what you think does not work as is being shown, and why that is so. You are entitled to your opinions. But, we are also entitled to freely test and experiment for similar self running results, in this Daly thread, without having to deal with guys constantly telling us everything that was ever made into a self runner is faked. Who's side are you on???  Not on the one that I'm on...
  I don't agree that the second Akula video device does not work as is shown, even when checked out for X wires, or other unseen input sources, by witnesses.  I aim to prove it for myself, and I'll leave it at that, as that is enough for me, and I'm not concerned about your mentioning that there are no self running device, nor that there ever have been.
Sorry guys, but I'm working on this, and YOU are disturbing this thread with more BS, as far as I'm concerned.
No further comments for me about you ideas of what is faked. Enough time wasted on that theme already.

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Nick this is the Barbosi Thread

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  MileHigh:
  I'm also quite familiar with all of Itsu's test on the Akula/Ruslan replications. Which were not an exact replication of any of the two mentioned devices. Just look at the bulbs that he used.  Are they similar to what Akula is using, or Ruslan. No?  Why not? If I use those same wattage bulbs I wouldn't be able to light those bulbs to anywhere close the same lumin levels as when using 100 watt bulbs, or even higher wattage bulbs. As mentioned previously, I burnt out a 150 watt bulb, while 40 to 60 watt bulbs are barely lighting.
  I don't have all the answers, and I'm still working on it, but I do feel that there is a relation between this thread and the Dally thread.
  I also feel that Itsu was very close to hitting on it, but instead of continuing on, he left it all up in the air, at least for now. I do wish that he would get back on that project, I do miss his input, and love his clean and tidy work.

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   Ramset:
   Thanks, I've already corrected that error with my last edit. I saw it a bit later, and took care of it.
   The question was to point Memory man to ANY self runner. Which I won't get into, and therefore my answer.
   Sorry for any cross threading, but the idea is that there may be a relation in the workings involved by these various circuits.

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  MileHigh:
  I'm also quite familiar with all of Itsu's test on the Akula/Ruslan replications. Which were not an exact replication of any of the two mentioned devices. Just look at the bulbs that he used.  Are they similar to what Akula is using, or Ruslan. No?  Why not? If I use those same wattage bulbs I wouldn't be able to light those bulbs to anywhere close the same lumin levels as when using 100 watt bulbs, or even higher wattage bulbs. As mentioned previously, I burnt out a 150 watt bulb, while 40 to 60 watt bulbs are barely lighting.
  I don't have all the answers, and I'm still working on it, but I do feel that there is a relation between this thread and the Dally thread.
  I also feel that Itsu was very close to hitting on it, but instead of continuing on, he left it all up in the air, at least for now. I do wish that he would get back on that project, I do miss his input, and love his clean and tidy work.

He didn't have the right light bulb??  You have got to be kidding.

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Yes, I will do some more tests even knowing that in the original equipment didn't work with the original owner and didn't work with me. The original owner had a good grounding system but I didn't see how was the tests and connections. When I tried, my grounding was not good like they use to ask for.
The excuse that Barbosa gave to the original owner was the inductance in the primary was not right. The inductance was 0.21 Henries and was suppose to be between 0.6 and 0.8 Henries as I told before.

I will give you a possible explanation for all of this.  Barbosa and Leal are criminals.  They spent some money to make an advertizing banner and a promotional video clip.  The method of operation was to get bank transfers with 100% up-front payment before delivering the device.  They live near a junkyard where there are hundreds of old electric motor stators available.  When they got an order they would get an old stator, wrap some wire around it, and then put it in a box and then power concrete and gravel into the box like some kind of "lead boot" potting compound.

Then we have "Phase II."  Clarence has some psychological issues and he loves telling big stories and being the center of attention.  He can lie about all sorts of things, but when asked to produce hard data that's a line he can't cross.  You see, there is "colourful story" lying which in his mind is not really lying at all, and then there is outright lying where you state that you ran tests and recorded hard data but that did not take place.  So he can't psychologically cross that line and make an outright lie, hence he avoids the question.

Then you have a real victim, the EF user Totoalas that is going to buy grounding rods and travel in Asia to get parts for a replication.  What if he is just a guy of modest means and this is sucking all his money away from his family?  Most of the people on EF are reading here.  I don't for a second believe that all of you believe Clarence.  Yet not a single one of you is advising caution to Totoalas, or even telling him publicly on the EF thread that you don't believe that Clarence's system works.  I will remind all of you that it's 100% clear to me that Clarence knows next to nothing about electronics.  That makes a lot of you stupid spineless bitches in my book.

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The questions are repeated again by Level on EF, will Clarence reply?

Hello Clarence. No offense intended at all, but frankly, as I have mentioned before, all indications from what you have said previously here are that your system is not working as a self running device, so that is why I am throwing out some ideas, in case anyone who still wants to try to build and test with one of these setups wants to try some different arrangements to see if they can get the device to self run, since we don't really know how your own setup is actually performing.

You have actually provided very little test results information so far that anyone can look at to try to determine how your device is performing. If your setup was able to self run, I see no reason why you would not be willing to share some long term test results with everyone here, since all you would have to do is connect in a light bulb and then switch on the device and leave it running for 24 hours or more, while measuring the battery voltage periodically. Since you have so far ignored requests for such a simple test, I can only conclude that your setup doesn't self run. A simple test or two like this would help others here to see exactly how your setup performs in self loop mode for a reasonable duration of time. You should understand that until you provide these sort of performance details, there is no reason for anyone to think your setup is over unity.

So, it is not that people are not getting what you are saying. It is that you haven't provided important details about how your setup actually performs for anyone to try to assess if your device actually performs any better than if you just connect the battery and inverter alone to a light bulb and leave that running for a few hours. (http://www.energeticforum.com/images/smilies/wink.gif) People often make mistaken claims about free energy devices in these forums. We have probably all seen that many times. I am not saying I think you are definitely mistaken. I am saying that without you at least presenting some longer duration test results as described above, we have very little to go on. So that leaves you as just another guy saying he has a 'working' free energy device, but not giving anyone any practical test information that they can then evaluate.

Now, BroMikey or others, before you jump all over me, think about what I am saying. I don't think anything I am saying is too unreasonable at all. (http://www.energeticforum.com/images/smilies/thinking.gif) For those of us who don't know Clarence personally, we have no way of evaluating what he is saying unless he at least provides some practical performance test results. That is just a fact of the situation of communicating in forums of this type.  (http://www.energeticforum.com/images/smilies/peaceflag.gif) Yes, Clarence could just make up some test results, but that is something we would have to look at and try to evaluate.  (http://www.energeticforum.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)

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