Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[MileHigh]

Dear MH as usual you are a little behind the curve .. Controlling interest in the E-Cat Rossi device has now been sold to 'Industrial Heat' it has been independently tested for a continuous period of 32 days and found to produce energy in the order of one magnitude .. you won't have too much difficulty verifying this.

"as usual you are a little behind the curve"

Really?  Please go ahead and cite three recent references where I am "behind the curve like usual."  If you can't then why are you saying that?

Take a look at reply #1627 above.  Is there anything that you can learn from that posting?  Was I discussing anything related to the issue of the controlling interest in the E-Cat?  You notice that I wasn't, so why are you even talking about that?

From what I can see jury on the E-Cat is still out.  If it was definitively proven technology then it would be major mainstream world news, just like the Pons and Fleischmann announcement in 1989.  That's hasn't happened yet.

[MileHigh]

I don't know if there is much more to say here on the technical side of things.

It's the same old cliche, it's the same old problem.  The people on the EF thread are obsessing on the details of where to get toroids and what wire gage to use, while completely ignoring having a rational discussion about how the thing is actually supposed to work (or not work.)  The design is electrical quackery, but that fact is being completely ignored on EF.  Like usual, the main proponents barely have an understanding of electronics including Clarence.  BroMikey has no clue about the dot convention for transformers.

If anybody tries to build this, chances are it will take quite a while considering all the digging you have to do.  Of course, any replications will not work, and all the enthusiasts will scratch their heads and try things like changing number of turns, changing the wire gage, trying different toroids, trying different grounding rod arrangements, etc.

And in the face of all of this there are readers that are upset that the circuit and it's lack of merits is being discussed here.  Even though you can suspect that they have a very shaky feeling about the whole thing, they would seemingly prefer a happy pseudo discussion just like is going  on on the EF thread.  So many people don't want to face the issues head on, and they would rather fantasize about it working and be comfortably numb.  They also want to ignore the time and money that somebody else will have to spend to prove that it doesn't work.

I expect it will all fizzle out by this fall and by that time nobody will care.

Or, they can read this thread and drop the project before you even start and put your time and money and efforts into a better project that actually might work.

The sad thing is that Clarence himself is not a bad guy, he is just a victim of the B&L con himself.  His problem is that he refuses to run the setup long enough to discharge the battery.  Assume in the back of his mind he really knows that the battery will go flat.  But doing that will take all his fun away, so he stubbornly sticks to his guns and lives out the illusion.  All that he is really doing when he does that is draw more victims into the B&L con.  In that sense Clarence is not a good guy.

It's incredible how the same pattern keeps repeating itself over and over.  Daniel Nunez has no clue how a coil worlds.  John Rohner had no clue what he was doing and it was all bluff.  Wayne Travis could not discuss hydraulic systems any better than a 14-year-old.  Clarence has almost no clue what he is doing and is relying on bluff and his new main sycophant.

[pulp]

MH how much they pay you to write all day in this forum? Just wondering what is your job if you have so much free time to write here all day. You lost so many time to write here you could go visit Clarence instead to test. What is your problem that there will be people to invest 2k for parts? Think this is their problem not yours. Why don't you write in Daly and Akula topics also. Their replications are far more costly than Clarence's. It's just so anoying to read your whinings so often.

[nelsonrochaa]

Nelson, I tried to watch your clip but honestly I was very tired.  Your clips have no narration and but they have text annotation.  What are you trying to show in your clips?  Did the setup you showed have any relation to this thread?

How about you write a few paragraphs in here where you explain what you did, and what your results were, and what your conclusions were?  If you have a point to make that is relevant I am certainly willing to listen to it.

Also, if you are not comfortable writing in English, then make a posting in Portuguese.  Everyone can then use their favourite translation software to translate it into English.

Ok , Just wanted to show you that a closed loop can not only have the effect of a resistance in a "transformer", and an shorted transformer can be more than a "glorified resistor" .
Maybe  the loop secondary in barbosa circuit is not only a resistor but a manner of put the core in saturation mode

You know why some ac motors uses a closed copper loop around the nucleus?
is certainly not to make a resistance   but to make the start of rotor easy and why ?
Certainly you now why.
You did not want people to contribute in the discussion instead of being seated?

Notice that although if you think it is absolutely ridiculous this circuit and the way others are trying to test, you are the person with more intervention in this topic.

You know something that people who are interested in this topic may not know?

If you do not know, and strongly assumes that  circuit is impossible to work, why you lose your time trying to justify something that does not have 100% sure?
If your intention was to show that money was misspent, I think I've cues you clear your opinion.

Thanks

[Enjoykin]

Please note that the E-Cat is not an OU generator, it's supposed to be a design that is a nuclear generator.  The jury is still out and although there are observed anomalies, there is no definitive proof yet.  Look it up for more information.

Listen MileHigh !!

MONEY TALK AND MONEY WRITE - NOT YOU !! Am i right MileHigh ?? 

I see you can't differentiate among cold fusion Rossi reactor and nuclear fusion reactor. Better inform yourself before claim anything.!!


About Russian Rossi replication:

Rossi E-CAT was succesfully replicated by Russian team in 2014, after 1 month of testing they have got COP = 3.6 at temperature 1400^o and COP=3.2 at 1250^o. All info were recorded in real time 31 days. No beta decay found during time test, no deuterium at input /output (result of cold fusion reaction). Only transformation of natural ⁶Li to ⁷Li and ⁵⁸Ni to ⁶²Ni with big ammount of released energy COP=3.2 and 3.6 times more than input. Fuel was 1gramme of ⁵⁸Ni plus ⁶LiAlH₄ in proportion ⁵⁸Ni (90%) + ⁶Li[AlH4] (10%). To initiate reaction temperature must be higher than 1100^o. Intrinsic preassure in reactor was about 50 atmosphere.


SO BE FINE AND STOP FLOODING THIS THREAD !! YOU SUCCEED TO OVERTHROW MANY NICE AND INTELLIGENT PEOPLE HERE and FLOODED THREAD WITH OWN SPECULATIONS WITHOUT ANY PROOF OR HEALTHY LOGIC.

TELL US THE TRUTH - DO YOU STILL ON OBAMA'S PAY LIST ?? I THINK YOU STILL WORKING HARD FOR U.S. GOVERNEMENT TO STOP SPREADING FREE ENERGY AND SAFE ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES !!

Who wll buy oil and gas? Who will pay Obama's Green Narcotics care (free selling on streets) ?? Who will going war for coal, oil, gas resources - if all people have free energy ?? Who will sell GMO products if all people make own fresh and healthy food ?? And so......


Download and read:
Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a Rossi reactor device Version3
http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913v3

or better make own Rossi replication !!

Reg.
Enjoykin