Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[nelsonrochaa]

Nelson:

I am not going "mad."  I simply quoted you where you stated that you don't believe this system is OU.  Now you are saying that you believe it is OU.  You are the one that became "mad" in your previous posting.

The problem with this thread is there is no generic technical discussion, or any technical discussion about all of the technical points that I have made.  For example, how does the captor output power?  Do you see any connections between the captor and the output of the device?  Talking about wire gages and how many copper rods to put in the ground is not a technical discussion.  I posed several marked-up schematics to try to stimulate a real technical discussion but there are no comments.  Many people "play" and pretend that they are having a technical discussion when the reality is it's not true.  They talk about how to build it pretending that it works.  They are afraid to talk about how they believe it actually works - they have nothing to say.  They know who they are.

When Clarence talks about adding copper rods and "getting a higher voltage measurement" do you know where he is measuring that voltage?  I don't know.  I would not be surprised if nobody knows.

People accuse me of "dominating the thread."  Do you think I have the power to stop people from posting?  I don't.  They are afraid to discuss the real issues:  Let's look at the schematic and discuss how the system is supposed to work - discuss what is going on on the schematic and where you think the free energy is coming from - in the schematic.

The same thing is happening on the Energetic Forum thread.  It's a fantasy discussion about where to buy cores and how many turns for your coils.  They are not discussing the possible mechanism for generating free energy at all, or how and where to make measurements to confirm or deny that the hypothetical free energy process is taking place.  That is the reality.

MileHigh

Hi
I think that can only be a problem in translation, because I think I've been very clear about my opinion.
There is no single word from me to speak in overunity. Always mentioned improvement of efficiency in the tests I did and I published a few months ago, but you answer that I had to be scientific in order to speak of efficiency.

Regarding the majority of circuit diagrams B & L face to my understanding is not 100% accurate.
but insist that despite different paths all converge on the same but actual need first to read some lecture to understand some interesting points that have "scientific" explanations.
I see many people playing without even understand the actual functioning of the concept, which has also said it is not original B & L.
Read and verify the references associated with the creation of the patent B & L.
These are rather important to better understand and recreate the circuit properly.

About the rods and ground ,
I also suggest to Clarence, that has nothing to do with the amount of copper rods that he is using, but with the size of the area and  that is grounded. Can be a large plate.
In the circuit that i make, does not use even the copper rods or independent ground, only the ground of the installation (I live in a apartment on the 9th floor) i don't have currently the conditions to recreate with solid ground  .

As I said in the last post, i will not  repeat everything I said about the circuit and about my opinion in detail. Just walk up to some 10 months ago in posts on this topic when I started to get the first results .

I also want to reaffirm that if you continue to think that the loop in the transformer will be just a waste of power, you'll never even understand its effect on the circuit. But I will not convince you of anything, in fact neither you'd want
Good luck on your journey

[nelsonrochaa]

Nelson
I completely understood your Not OU explanation ...
not the tenth time you explained ...or the 6th time ...
I got it the first time...
and its VERY SPECIAL [at least  your DC results...similar to Clarence apparently ??]

Ola ,

Talvez seja mais fácil traduzires de português para inglês para que percebas sem erros de tradução .
Relativamente ao tema de eu acreditar que o circuito B&L é um circuito overunity  ,
digo convictamente que a corrente medida no loop não é a corrente de saída. Já expliquei qual a sua função .
Sem entrar em detalhes , serve apenas para saturar o core do transformador toroidal. por este motivo como sempre disse
para mim não é um circuito overunity .Ponto final , no entanto não disse que não observei comportamentos curiosos e positivos durante os testes que fiz baseado na minha interpretação do funcionamento do circuito .
Nos testes que efectuei com o meu circuito em AC 220v 50hz , pude verificar  que o consumo baixou em cargas indutivas cerca de 80% e em cargas puramente resistivas 50% a 55% . Não sendo "cientifico" na minha conclusão e nas minhas explicações é claro que são apenas resultados insignificantes , quando o importante é OVERUNITY.
Em relação ao testes em DC , nem sequer estou a usar uma configuração idêntica ou mesmo tipo de equipamentos.
Caminhos diferentes mas convergentes.
Na minha terra as casas constroem-se do chão para o telhado e não o contrário.
Não tenho interesse em alongar-me em pormenores até por questões profissionais. Não faltam "Gurus" para explicar o que nunca viram , falando do que nunca testaram mas com uma certeza , Novela não faltara . 

  Atentamente:

Nelson rocha

[MileHigh]

Nelson,

Here is a slightly cleaned up Google Translate:  (I may also make some mistakes in the clean up.)

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   It may be easier to translate Portuguese to English for you to understand without translation errors.
On the subject I believe that B & L circuit is an overunity circuit.
I say with conviction the current loop is not measured in the output current. I have explained what is its function.
Without going into detail, it only serves to saturate the core of the toroidal transformer. for this reason as always said
for me is not a overunity circuit.  However I did not hear anyone say they did not notice curious and positive behaviors during the tests I did based on my interpretation of the circuit operation.
In the tests we have conducted with my circuit 220V 50Hz AC, I observed that the use of inductive loads dropped about 80% and purely resistive loads 50% to 55%. Not being "scientific" in my conclusion and in my explanation is clear that these are very small results, when the important thing is overunity.
Regarding tests on AD, I even using an identical configuration of equipment.
Different but converging paths.
In my country the houses are built from the ground to the roof and not the opposite.
I have no interest in dwell into details even by professional issues. Do not miss "Gurus" to explain what ever seen, talking than ever tested but with a certainty, Novela not lacked.
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I still don't know what you mean by the drops of 80% and 50% to 55% for inductive or resistive loads.  It is not important.  I will just repeat something to you that I posted a few weeks ago.  I have 38 years of direct and indirect experience in electronics.  From my experience and knowledge I am telling you this is a scam and the replicators are chasing after a false dream.

Esta é uma farsa.

MileHigh

[Enjoykin]

Ola, amigos 

circuito B&L é um cova magnética é circuito overunity.

leia o tópico
http://www.overunity.com/14755/hogan-and-jakovlewich-overunity-generator/msg446771/#msg446771

ps: Суровый Челябинский Дисней
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnsdc7cTPuU

[MileHigh]

Correr para as montanhas!

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