Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[mscoffman]

I have pretty much satisfied myself that Mile High has erroneous technical ideas about how electronics work.
(that is that earth currents and utility ground currents are made up of fungible (interchangeable) units called
electrons. Electrons do not loose energy but change in quantity as a vector quantity.) So some external
signal modulation is going to be required to understand just where the electron drive comes from be it natural
or manmade and some drive will almost certainly be natural. But just as certainly the majority is probably
manmade. Ground resistance will almost certainly converts major power into a major low-voltage electron
current flow but that low level flow though that can be regauged stepped up by a power transformer.

I have no intention of accepting *anything* technical that user Mile High says in the future. If
he want to act as guard dog for this thread, so be it.


I can understand why Clarence does not want to show data, because modulation on the signal could
be used to show that the majority of signal is manmade and a natural sequence of conclusions can
be drawn from there. For example the utility signal is probably modulated by the same synchronous
signal that utilities know as their average demand curve.

The problem is that without data it is impossible to easily show that the device works as magnetic amplifier
regulator and it is impossible to show that the ground array is a acting as a complex array or even an
amplifying device. So there are some technical interesting features to be understood even if the device itself
primarily picks up manmade power signals. So, I do not rate Clarence as a true friend of a technician or a friend
of technical learning *which is what this web site is supposed to be about*,even though I do rate Mile High an
enemy of it.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[MileHigh]

Poor All/Acca:

I have to assume that you are very upset and frustrated because I asked you repeatedly to explain your aquarium videos.  I urged you to rethink what you were saying and do some basic research that a student in high school could do.  Not to mention the fact that you now have a magic Internet box on your desk and the pursuit of knowledge and enlightenment is easier than it has even been before in the history of Man.

You couldn't explain your aquarium videos, the only thing you could do was drone on about a "magnetic vortex."

So I clearly and unambiguously explained you aquarium videos with diagrams and it turns out the explanation goes back to the simple fundamental concepts behind electricity and magnetism, and a kid in grade eight could understand my explanations with a bit of supplementary background research - at their fingertips.

After my explanation you had nothing to say, and you still have nothing to say.  The only thing that you could do was repost the same incorrect stuff again.

So you must be in a tizzy.  Your posted your nonsensical "explanations" for your aquarium videos many times and finally someone with basic common sense corrected you.  It must make you frustrated.  Your attempts to demonize me say everything about you.

Djarno tried to replicate Clarence's stuff and failed.  He blew his inverter at least twice and returned it under warranty.  Perhaps he blew it a third time and they refused him.  He is GONE, he never reported anything positive.  If you think I have regrets or am ashamed for advising him to stop doing this dangerous nonsensical experiment you are wrong.

Recently BroMikey posted that Clarence has to recharge his battery between "sessions."

But in the beginning you are correct, use 60 rods was the instruction
and the output was enough to power many things. If you look back in
the record you will see that the refrigerator ran for about 5 hours at
times and the battery would begin to discharge some. He would stop
the system and charge it so he didn't destroy the battery and repeat
the process over and over again getting excellent runtime powering
devices all day. No grid power, only a battery and sinewave inverter
as the source and I am sure you knew that.

This whole thing is "Solar Roadways" on steroids.  They talk about "where you are on the geomagnetic map" as if it really means something but they never actually state what that "something" is.  The whole thing is a farce and you will never see B&L or Clarence or anybody at all show a working system.  You will never see Clarence show any measurements or do anything related to measurements.   So I have no problem advising people to not dig up their backyards and invest a lot of money in grounding rods and inverters and other equipment.  That makes me the good guy and you the bad guy for trying to portray the good guy as the bad guy.  Suck on that.

Mscoffman:

It's not me that has "erroneous technical ideas about how electronics work."  You are trying to argue that the vast majority of members of this forum as well as all of Science and Engineering "got it wrong."  Why are you pinning this label on me?

You are the one that is out in left field and many times I have responded to your postings and you had nothing to say for a followup.  You are the one where nearly everything you post is either pie-in-the-sky or sounds technical but has one or more fatal flaws.

MileHigh

[Acca]

I am mad with anger at MileHigh that he destroyed "CLARENCE" a 77 year old farmer, and my choice to build that device..

As he decided for me what I should DO !!  HE IS NOT MY DADDY !! HE IS A FLIPPIN NUT !!

Acca...

[MileHigh]

After a post like that I don't think there is any doubt about who the nutter is.  I have made countless postings to educate people around here.  Instead of Djarno repeatedly blowing out his inverter one can imagine he could have made a different sort of mistake and electrocuted himself instead.  Thank God that didn't happen.  Stating that the B&L stuff is wrong and offering an alternative opinion makes me a good guy.  Stating a different opinion before you dig up your backyard and work like an ox and spend thousands of dollars on folly makes me a good guy.  Why don't you ask Clarence to try to make proper measurements just like many others on both forums try to do all the time?  He can start by asking for help from his peers.  Now you need to take a chill pill Acca.

[core]

Does anybody know if these guys have done anything recently? I am using a similar technique with a current sensor. However I am not 100% sure how they are using there's so I can only speculate that my technique is similar.

- Core

"Personalities of great men are free from ordinary weaknesses"



It's EZ to get pissed on these forums. Spend more time building and experimenting and you will soon see that you simply have no time to post here on a daily basis. Not posting here on a daily basis is a good thing and rather therapeutic. Don't worry, nobody will get a working device anytime soon as all these ideas are re-hashes of failed devices. So, your not missing anything.