Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[FatBird]

Well put EE (EarthEnergy).  I agree 100%.


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[a.king21]

earthenergy: Good luck with your replication attempt.
I have 2 points to make re Barbosa Leal.
1 Their patent is totally invalid. Anyone who discovers the real secret can patent it and get all the rights.
2 Investment scam. They can claim they genuinely believed they were getting earth energy, until proved otherwise.


BTW meters prove nothing. Put an amp meter near a plasma ball and you'll get tens of amps. It's easy to fool clamp meters
with a bit of circuitry.


Finally I had a good look at their other patents.
One is a Figuera copy, another is a mechanical Bedini copy without the switching. Even the patent you quote claims it works on DC. All this makes me very suspicious indeed.


If they are genuine, then as you say, just one engineer opens the box and posts a youtube video and anyone can replicate.
In my opinion you need pulsing for any free energy device to work.
But I cannot ignore that the Brazil electric grid uses single wire earth return for much of their territory.
So once again good luck with your replication attempt.

[a.king21]

In the previous link I posted is the following information about the grid system in Brazil:

Lloyd Mandeno OBE (1888-1973) fully developed SWER in New Zealand around 1925 for rural electrification. Although he termed it "Earth Working Single Wire Line" it was often called "Mandeno's Clothesline".[9] More than 200,000 kilometres have now been installed in Australia and New Zealand. It is considered safe, reliable and low cost, provided that safety features and earthing are correctly installed. The Australian standards are widely used and cited. It has been applied in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan, Brazil, Africa, portions of the United States' Upper Midwest, and SWER interties have been proposed for Alaska and prototyped.




Use by developing nations


At present, certain developing nations have adopted SWER systems as their mains electricity systems, notably Laos, South Africa and Mozambique.[8] SWER is also used extensively in Brazil where it is termed "Redes Monofilares com Retorno por Terra" or "MRT". There are detailed standards and drawings available in Brazilian Portuguese that would be transferable to other Portuguese speaking countries such as Angola and Mozambique.[16]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_earth_return

[earthenergy]

earthenergy: Good luck with your replication attempt.
I have 2 points to make re Barbosa Leal.
1 Their patent is totally invalid. Anyone who discovers the real secret can patent it and get all the rights.
2 Investment scam. They can claim they genuinely believed they were getting earth energy, until proved otherwise.


BTW meters prove nothing. Put an amp meter near a plasma ball and you'll get tens of amps. It's easy to fool clamp meters
with a bit of circuitry.


Finally I had a good look at their other patents.
One is a Figuera copy, another is a mechanical Bedini copy without the switching. Even the patent you quote claims it works on DC. All this makes me very suspicious indeed.


If they are genuine, then as you say, just one engineer opens the box and posts a youtube video and anyone can replicate.
In my opinion you need pulsing for any free energy device to work.
But I cannot ignore that the Brazil electric grid uses single wire earth return for much of their territory.
So once again good luck with your replication attempt.

Thanks a.king.... I just updated my post about loading to ground, it can be done with single phase, or with swer, it doesn't seem to matter, as I have done it with isolated square wave from a rectifier. It does show up on the meter. Are they pulling a meter scam? I doubt it.

I was not aware they have been using wording and or schematics from other patents, if that is true, it is not a good indicator, but is still not proof they are scamming, I do hope that scamming is not taking place, and I still do not think it is.

Not a pulsed input, just a moving field, Sweet proved that.

People also need to realize that we have always gotten an endless supply of free energy from magnetic fields. The force/energy applied to a generator shaft is not the force/energy coming out the other end. The energy applied to the generator shaft is used up to fight back emf from the induced field, it is not the energy that is converted into the electrical power that is coming out of the generator. It only appears that way. The electrical output of the generator is coming from the supplied magnetic field, over and over and over. That is in reality, a free energy pump that is restricted by back emf.

Regards

Further thought......  I would have to assume that that if they were stealing power the Utility company that came and took their meters back, and confiscated the boys transformers, would have also had them arrested for stealing power and trying to scam people in the process, it does not make any sense that the utility personnel would not level that accusation

[forest]

There is one thing I cannot understand, maybe I'm dumb. If you look at Kapanadze green box video they measured over 20 amps flowing from or to ground via cable connected to water pipe (ideal ground if all pipes are long metalic underground).


I know that it's common to use ground connection as safety factor for breakers and sometimes ground is connected to neutral (here in Europe in case of badly planned installation or just right near the meter connection). I'm not EE and I'm curious : if I get DC-AC inverter of say 5kW and ground one end so it become neutral while the other become hot terminal - is there any current flowing to ground when inverter is loaded or unloaded ? Is there any case when this current is flowing ? What if someone disconnect this ground connection and take the bare wire into his hand while inverter is still powering load ?