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Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

Started by hanon, August 13, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

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Quote from: truongcongduc4 on January 19, 2014, 08:33:14 PM
Yes. You are right. So I need your help.


Don't give up. Edison has no formal education , ...me too..... ::)

truongcongduc4

Quote from: phoneboy on January 19, 2014, 03:51:06 PM
@havuhung, just musing so don't shoot me on this. The single loop "secondary" has an induced current in it resulting in a magnetic field, the grounded conductor/coil wrapped around it is parallel to the magnetic field/perpendicular to the induced  e-field and experiences charge separation. These charges are influenced by the magnetic field of the loop causing them to spin like in a cyclotron, emitting radiation?? Maybee that's the emission there are showing in one of the illustrations??
Yes, that's what I want to tell you. Please think about it.

havuhung

Quote from: truongcongduc4 on January 20, 2014, 10:13:57 AM
Yes, that's what I want to tell you. Please think about it.
@truongcongduc4
With a power transformer primary winding and secondary curricula simply refer to electricity is done. (No need to consider in which electrons do! Because generally we've inherited the master formula retransmission.)
With a FE device you look objectively reasonable if it is or not! for example: You stand on the shore of a lake, holding your hand alone (that is not a force any) a tube dipped into the water in the lake, you will guide your hand above the head tube in a cup of water to flow into the ly for you! Same thing for you to extract electrical equipment from the ground! Let's try a little thought about this.

Với một biến thế điện có cuộn sơ cấp và thứ cấp chỉ cần tham khảo giáo trình điện là xong.(Không cần phải xem xét electron chạy trong đó như thế nào! vì  nói chung ta đã được thừa hưởng công thức của các bậc thầy truyền lại.)
Với một thiết bị FE bạn hãy nhìn khách quan xem nó có hợp lý hay không! ví dụ: Bạn đứng trên bờ một hồ nước,tay bạn cầm yên(có nghĩa là không bất kỳ một lực) một chiếc ống nhúng sâu vào nước trong hồ, bạn sẽ hướng đầu ống phía trên tay bạn vào một chiếc ly để nước chảy vào chiếc ly cho bạn !!! Điều tương tự cho bạn với thiết bị trích xuất điện từ mặt đất ! Hãy thử một chút suy nghĩ về điều này.

havuhung

Quote from: phoneboy on January 19, 2014, 03:51:06 PM
@havuhung, just musing so don't shoot me on this. The single loop "secondary" has an induced current in it resulting in a magnetic field, the grounded conductor/coil wrapped around it is parallel to the magnetic field/perpendicular to the induced  e-field and experiences charge separation. These charges are influenced by the magnetic field of the loop causing them to spin like in a cyclotron, emitting radiation?? Maybee that's the emission there are showing in one of the illustrations??
Hi @phoneboy,
With the frequency of the loop diagram indicates it will be equal to the frequency of the regional electricity grid (50/60 Hz). With this frequency will not happen effects you're talking about!  :D

Neofln


"IMO if Barbosa and Leal really wanted to impress the people they would use a small, pure sinewave inverter, to power the device, after all they are claiming 22 watts input and 6000 out, why would they want to use the grid to power the device? It does not make sense." earthenergy

Sorry friend, but like they, i live in Brazil, use the grid to power the device is the unique way to do something like this work and get some money, without die.