Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[cheappower2012]

There is no cord it may be real,its not obvious how it is faked ,if it is,the green box video.
The theory of a possible way is the big gauge wire ground cable,connected to the water pipe
is one side of a grid connection to a hard line skeptic thats enough.To me its not
enough is there an alternate explanation,rather than focus on how it powers up lights I focused on
the strange effects in the video,Tariel had trouble measuring the ac voltage across the lights,
the huge ground current is impossible unless its a fake.I posted this experiment before however
people simply go back to its a fake or its a Tesla invention,goes nowhere but in circles.In the experiment it was assumed
based on the video the output of the device is line frequency 50 HZ,220vac,fed thru a Tesla interface(coils,hv spark gap,ground)
the ac goes thru a coil thats surrounded by a larger coil connected to a spark gap,thats arcing,inducing pulses into the
coil outputting the ac,the ac is mixed with high level pulses,the source of the ac in the device is hidden.I used an isolation transformer as my ac source,I
fed this thru a Tesla interface(coils,spark gap,hv,ground), the ground went to an outside water pipe,the  output ac was connected to a 71 watt incandescent light.
I used a clampmeter made by the same company that made Tariels cheap clampmeter,sold at harbor freight in the US.When I attempted to
measure the ac voltage across the light,I got the same effect as in the video,when I measured the ground current
I got a huge ground current reading,when a different clampmeter was used I got zero.Based on this I believe Tariel uses this to fake out
people to make them believe its a Tesla invention.
There is an unknown factor in this video, that is the wattage of the lights,the claim is there a 1,000 watts,seems much too high to me
I live in the US and don't know about what wattage bulbs they sell in Georgia.
There also wasn't enough time running to rule out batteries,and exact lamp wattage is not known.As for how he looped the device
all consistent , it will work if real,also if fake.
This video and 2004 video are useless because its whats hidden thats the secret, Tariel told a.king21 theres one component
that he makes thats needed to make this work.Tariels device to me is a low tech device,with a hidden active component, its presented as a Tesla invention
rediscovery,in my opinion it has nothing to do with Tesla its a smoke screen to throw people off.In the pictures
the clampmeter shows a phantom reading,this creates the illusion its a heavy ground current
,it creates a strong belief,to the hard line skeptic, its an obvious fake,a hidden grid wire ,to the believer its a Tesla invention.
On the looping,my battery that I use for experiments went bad, so I supplied the energy by a 12 volt dc supply,the point was that
it is looped like in both the 2004 video and green box video,Tariel did a measurement from the battery to the inverter,I also did that,but didn't record it as this
experiment was not done for public viewing  only to test possibilities.

[Hoppy]

There is no cord it may be real,its not obvious how it is faked ,if it is,the green box video.
The theory of a possible way is the big gauge wire ground cable,connected to the water pipe
is one side of a grid connection to a hard line skeptic thats enough.To me its not
enough is there an alternate explanation,rather than focus on how it powers up lights I focused on
the strange effects in the video,Tariel had trouble measuring the ac voltage across the lights,
the huge ground current is impossible unless its a fake.I posted this experiment before however
people simply go back to its a fake or its a Tesla invention,goes nowhere but in circles.In the experiment it was assumed
based on the video the output of the device is line frequency 50 HZ,220vac,fed thru a Tesla interface(coils,hv spark gap,ground)
the ac goes thru a coil thats surrounded by a larger coil connected to a spark gap,thats arcing,inducing pulses into the
coil outputting the ac,the ac is mixed with high level pulses,the source of the ac in the device is hidden.I used an isolation transformer as my ac source,I
fed this thru a Tesla interface(coils,spark gap,hv,ground), the ground went to an outside water pipe,the  output ac was connected to a 71 watt incandescent light.
I used a clampmeter made by the same company that made Tariels cheap clampmeter,sold at harbor freight in the US.When I attempted to
measure the ac voltage across the light,I got the same effect as in the video,when I measured the ground current
I got a huge ground current reading,when a different clampmeter was used I got zero.Based on this I believe Tariel uses this to fake out
people to make them believe its a Tesla invention.
There is an unknown factor in this video, that is the wattage of the lights,the claim is there a 1,000 watts,seems much too high to me
I live in the US and don't know about what wattage bulbs they sell in Georgia.
There also wasn't enough time running to rule out batteries,and exact lamp wattage is not known.As for how he looped the device
all consistent , it will work if real,also if fake.
This video and 2004 video are useless because its whats hidden thats the secret, Tariel told a.king21 theres one component
that he makes thats needed to make this work.Tariels device to me is a low tech device,with a hidden active component, its presented as a Tesla invention
rediscovery,in my opinion it has nothing to do with Tesla its a smoke screen to throw people off.In the pictures
the clampmeter shows a phantom reading,this creates the illusion its a heavy ground current
,it creates a strong belief,to the hard line skeptic, its an obvious fake,a hidden grid wire ,to the believer its a Tesla invention.
On the looping,my battery that I use for experiments went bad, so I supplied the energy by a 12 volt dc supply,the point was that
it is looped like in both the 2004 video and green box video,Tariel did a measurement from the battery to the inverter,I also did that,but didn't record it as this
experiment was not done for public viewing  only to test possibilities.

Yes, we do round in circles but although you did not show a video of your experiment, I think your results show that its more than likely that TK was passing current through the earth wire and grounding at the water pipe. Watsup was the first to point out the strange demeanour of the bearded man clutching the coil of cable throughout the green box video and even described how the power supply was probably connected to the coil. I've not seen a more plausible explanation and certainly nothing that gets anywhere close to convincing me that his device was a genuine self-runner. I guess that's how things will remain.

[Clarence]

Hello @ ALL

am waiting on materials to revise my OFF GRID battery - inverter- captor - rectificator B & L system.
while waiting I need to perfect my inverter neutral grounding system to a WORKING ground system.
Since the Utility Company Energy grid systems in most all countries DO ground their so called neutral leg to earth
at their origin Generating site, It is  also necessary for me to ground my inverter system to a totally separate earth
ground grid system of my own to be independent from their site. I already KNOW that my ground system has to be
a satisfactory distance AWAY from my mains system so as NOT to be directly influenced by it. you will notice I said DIRECTLY!
the earth is actually a pool resource for Many types of entities, oh well.

my inverter ground rod will be physically separate from my Captor ground rods, just as Mains grounding is distanced
from its generating site.

I want my results to rise or fall on their own merits so as not to have to keep correcting errors in order to get some good results.
just info to say where I am heading.
as they become available I will post the good results. I wont waste your time with any bad results.
Cheers!

Clarence 

[ismael_34]

hello friends


     in this video I wanted to show the first curious experience I discovered when trying to


Barbosa replicate the system and Leal


    I have noticed that placing a driver shorted outside the nucleus of a


microwave transformer, the intensity in the non-power transformer


increased the least.


      SIN intensity Loopback is 2.27 amperes


  intensity WITH shorted loop is the same 2.27 amperes

  as you can see in the video I was putting different conductors shorted and


different sections, neither increase nor input amperage in the neutral or


either in phase


       All amperage increase to 147 amperes


      I think the voltage of each driver must be at zero volts when in


short, so if we calculate the volts by amps we Watts


   0 x 147 = 0 watts. the funny thing is that we have a current of 147 amperes


         I remember Don Smith said the voltage came out cheaper, after this


experiment could say that the current also has good price, lol




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDH7s3IMTtE

[cheappower2012]

to Hoppy
I know wattsup real well, I was in a tpu thread for years with him, he has a tendency
if he can't figure out some device,he calls it a fraud,and thinks up a way to explain it,as a fake.
In the past he would enlarge pictures of tpu's and explain things from fuzzy pictures,the other members would tell him
your seeing more than there is.
The point of the experiment was to see if there is another explanation for the clampmeters high current reading
if you stop the hv arcing the reading drops to zero,this was not recorded ,its a defect in the circuitry of this particular clampmeter
and Tariels clampmeter.
its very clear that high level pulses are induced into the coil carrying the ac in the greenbox video this
causes a digital voltmeter to cycle its reading  and it will effect the clampmeters ground current reading ,creating a false current reading.
I believe Tariel is aware of this and uses this in hes show to make people believe its a Tesla invention.As I told you before
this video(greenbox) and 2004 video are useless
to figure out anything,theres also no information of the exact wattage of the lights used.
This experiment was not to show its a self runner,there is too little information for that,he could have done the demo with hidden batteries.
If there was no strangeness with the clampmeter then wattsup's explanation would be valid, however there is,so its unlikely a hidden grid connection
is how its done in my opinion,it could be hidden batteries.Most of the other devices Tariel made are useless to help in figuring out how they work if real, with the exception of the aquarium 2,the green transformer in combination with the blue coil form a special circuit and there are other details missed,I believe it holds the answer to all hes devices operation and construction.This is the direction of my investigations,I have got a few of the green type of transformers from Russia,they were extensively used from 1970's to 1980's,very different construction from the standard ones used in the US.
A certain amount of people will believe its real,a certain amount of people will believe its fake.