Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[Clarence]

Clarence,

The devices in the main loop of these systems always seem to be under a kind of stability stress they
don't experience when plugged into utility networks. Utility networks are very fast and very "stiff"
because of the way the are backed. DC to AC inverters are not so stiff. So devices used here need a
little more hold up time. But not necessarily 7Ah worth.

Ultimately the incandescent bulb will need to be removed from the circuit because it is wasting power
that should be made available to the user purposes. The variac can be helpful at doing so initially. Of course
all the variacs will be removed eventually and be replaced by fixed resources.

I was just hoping you don't let inherent circuit instability put you off when you come this far. The circuit
looks very interesting.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Clarence:

Hello again,

you miss the point in the use of the 250 watt heat lamp! I simply use it as a test LOAD.
at times I use other bulbs such as a 4 watt nite light or a 13 watt CFL or a 24 watt CFL so the point about
wasting energy is mute. Everyone by now should have recognized that my ONLY purpose with constructing
this B&L device EXACTLY as CLOSE AS POSSIBLE to the way THEY DID IT is to use it as a PROOF OF CONCEPT.
If it doesnt work by their instructions and patent info then its a FARCE. I intend to go to whatever limits I need to
to prove whether the device works or not!

BTW: the next size bulb I intend to use is a 1000 watt Halogen bulb. I already have the materials and rack to plug
them in IF the results warrent going that far.
I am also aware of the instability of the performance of several of the components in the system and would work
on that latter- not now. and I definitely wont be using a VARIAC now or later.

at present I am in the process of increasing the size of my GROUND GRID as B&L call it. I'll see what that does and
it will determine my next steps.

Thanks and Cheers,

Clarence

[xhacks]

@Clarence Can you make some measurements (AC V&A in VS AC V&A); I tested your system, but the voltage on the battery is getting lower... Tested with a sine wave 300W inverter, and NO LOAD. Discovered something interesting about it: If you put a 20uF in parallel with the INPUT you can light the bulb between the two grounds(Neutral, ground)


P.S. I didn't use thickness of the cables, the windings of transformers, and just 2 grounds...Maybe this is the fault?....


Cheers,
Adrian

[Clarence]

@Clarence Can you make some measurements (AC V&A in VS AC V&A); I tested your system, but the voltage on the battery is getting lower... Tested with a sine wave 300W inverter, and NO LOAD. Discovered something interesting about it: If you put a 20uF in parallel with the INPUT you can light the bulb between the two grounds(Neutral, ground)


P.S. I didn't use thickness of the cables, the windings of transformers, and just 2 grounds...Maybe this is the fault?....


Cheers,
Adrian

Clarence:

Hello xhacks,

Glad to meet you. I can make measurements on my device for you sure - however
I didn't understand what you meant in your reference about taking voltage and amperage
measurements on YOUR unit.
on your unit you need to understand that the INVERTER unit itself IS A LOAD and that is why
your battery voltage gradually drops!

Also the part about the BATT - INVERTOR -  PHASE - CAPACITOR - NEUTRAL - BULB - GROUND (open loop) is
nothing new at ALL and the bulb is also a LOAD!!!  another reason why the battery voltage slowly falls!

If you REALLY want to use that little small inverter system ( Please note that statement is NOT in ANY way
meant to be derogatory!)  to A GREAT advantage you can get all of this information from an old DON SMITH
patent device if you will just go to your computer search engine and type in this wording : DON SMITH 2006 TESLA TECH .
after you pull it up (a you tube video from way back) scroll almost to the end and you will see him use a car battery which
he uses to power a hand held 28 WATT power zapper touched to a PLATE CAPACITOR that some one holds a GROUND WIRE
to which he states goes out side to large sized GROUND PLATE that was used for the seminar. He then explains
that the GROUND WIRE can be CUT and a LOAD placed between the two ends of the ground wire!!!
I also remember that He operated up to 2KW LOADS on this type of circuit. follows after Don's motto of KISS!
KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.

Use your inverter to power a similar low watt hand held high frequency zapper and then use a small amount of
the load area output to feed back and keep your battery charged and your home free.
BTW: there are a lot more of these little trinkets floating around in the cloud data system that the world doesn't know are out there.

thanks and CHEERS,

Clarence

[a.king21]

Clarence:

Hello xhacks,

Glad to meet you. I can make measurements on my device for you sure - however
I didn't understand what you meant in your reference about taking voltage and amperage
measurements on YOUR unit.
on your unit you need to understand that the INVERTER unit itself IS A LOAD and that is why
your battery voltage gradually drops!

Also the part about the BATT - INVERTOR -  PHASE - CAPACITOR - NEUTRAL - BULB - GROUND (open loop) is
nothing new at ALL and the bulb is also a LOAD!!!  another reason why the battery voltage slowly falls!

If you REALLY want to use that little small inverter system ( Please note that statement is NOT in ANY way
meant to be derogatory!)  to A GREAT advantage you can get all of this information from an old DON SMITH
patent device if you will just go to your computer search engine and type in this wording : DON SMITH 2006 TESLA TECH .
after you pull it up (a you tube video from way back) scroll almost to the end and you will see him use a car battery which
he uses to power a hand held 28 WATT power zapper touched to a PLATE CAPACITOR that some one holds a GROUND WIRE
to which he states goes out side to large sized GROUND PLATE that was used for the seminar. He then explains
that the GROUND WIRE can be CUT and a LOAD placed between the two ends of the ground wire!!!
I also remember that He operated up to 2KW LOADS on this type of circuit. follows after Don's motto of KISS!
KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.

Use your inverter to power a similar low watt hand held high frequency zapper and then use a small amount of
the load area output to feed back and keep your battery charged and your home free.
BTW: there are a lot more of these little trinkets floating around in the cloud data system that the world doesn't know are out there.

thanks and CHEERS,

Clarence

Clarence:  Do you mean like this?

[Clarence]

Clarence:

Hello a.king21

The high voltage he is putting into his side of the capacitor plate is AC.
the voltage that is being picked up on the other side of the plate and that is going to ground is
pulsed DC. purposely for demonstration purposes he is using a car battery and it is powering a
DC to AC converter which was originally used to test Dielectric values of different wire insulation
and other things etc.It could be adjusted up and down to different voltage and amperage settings.
the settings he chose basically amounted to a total of 28 watts and was delivered by the hand held
probe that he used. all in all just a high voltage module as you illustrated. the ground wire that is used
went to an outside ground of whatever sort. you could drop the voltage and frequency by any of
several means to match your needs whether it be AC or DC.
energy that went in on the input side did not pass to the other side. The energy that was received
on the output plate was harvested from the ambient energy background and was delivered to ground.

the input energy was simply the excitation means.
He showed two different demos of the same load to ground  process, I gave you the search engine wording
for the demonstration in 2006 now here is a better and more informative demonstration of harvesting to ground
of a previous year - type in -   Don Smith 2005 Part 4 - youtube.
a lot more information and explanation with all the witnesses gathered around.

I prefer my B&L device For all the different ways you can configure circuits more easily and accomplish basically the some thing.

thanks and Cheers.

Clarence