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How to install and tie together magnet wire coils

Started by aidrenegade, February 25, 2013, 05:10:32 AM

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gyulasun

Hi,

From the user manual it is clear (page 5) your cap meter uses 100 kHz measuring frequency which is very good for capacitors and for learning about their ESR (equivalent series resistance) values but this frequency is rather high for an iron bar core so I suggest buying the L meter shown in my first link above (it is within the UK).
By the way, I would not recommend using iron bar for your cores, their eddy current heat losses will be high even at low RPMs. Try to use ferrite cores, even ferrite beads used for high frequency interference supression would be good. I mean these with OD=14mm and length is 28.5 mm: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-Pcs-14x7x28-5mm-Toroid-Ferrite-Cores-Dark-Gray-for-Power-Transformers-/190877021677?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item2c712835ed  and you could simple insert them into your reels. Or if you can find similar toroidal cores cheaply with OD=14 to 15 mm you can also have them to fill up the reels with them.

You refer to the low lenz drag video again and I repeat again it is not proved by measurements that the "low lenz drag" is indeed true in practice i.e. it means a better performance indeed with respect to conventional setups.  Notice the air gap between the core and the inner circle of the magnets, it is at least 2 - 3 cm gap and this may mean a low lenz effect just because the magnetic induction is low.  I do not mean the gap between two neighbouring (adjacent) cores.  The closer the magnet to a core, the higher the induction but the higher the Lenz effect and vice versa.  This is good to keep in mind.  Until no practical measurements with real loads are done we cannot say it is a low Lenz setup indeed.

Gyula


aidrenegade

Hmm, I seem to be getting worse at this not better. Not got my ferrite cores yet but tried a setup with the 10 coils in a vertical orientation and couldn't get a volt out of them. I had unwound some of them to get their inductance values within .21mh on my meters 20mh setting. Also my magnets are now set up to produce dc voltage which meant playing with my levitation magnets to.

Not a single volt at almost 700rpm out of any coils, at which point I suffered a mechanical failure. Repaired my magnet assy and tried to generate a voltage using just a couple of coils in a horizontal plane like in the low lenz drag video but still no volts, dc or ac. All coils pass continuity test.

Heres a quick little slideshow link: http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/wayfoward/slideshow/coil%202. Am I missing anything obvious?

aidrenegade

OK, first problem is that I should be using repelling poles, eg n-n. I found this page online:
http://www.overunitybuilder.com/lenzlessquale.html. Also backed up by this other yt vid about the yt example linked to earlier by Gualsan, read the comments, some english explanation given. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX5ukoC-WXU

I'm rethinking my setup. I will figure out how to build a 6 coil, 6 sets of magnets setup. I'm thinking of utilizing a 120 degree angled triangle idea to aim 3 of my 35kg pull repelling magnets at the coil center. Think I was letting my thinking become 'blinkered' and less open.

Also found this related link: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Daniel_Quale_Lenzless_Generator