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Tinman's Rotary Transformer

Started by tim123, September 02, 2013, 03:23:33 AM

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MileHigh

Tinman:

QuoteBut in saying that,even this motor far outperforms an off the shelf motor.

I watched the clip where your modified washing machine motor outperforms a fan motor which is very impressive.  However, it's possible that this will only be within a narrow range of outputs and operating parameters.

I think there are two unresolved issues when it comes to the forums and modifying motors.

The first is that to know if you are making progress you need to compare your modified motor with an unmodified motor.  Without making measurements on the two motors under the same conditions you are in a kind of data limbo.

The second is to take measurements and plot performance curves from those measurements.  This takes some real work and I have never seen it on a free energy forum.  Performance curves are what a motor is all about:

http://tinyurl.com/lozae5s

I am not making any demands, just pointing out some issues.

MileHigh

tinman

@ Liberty &MH
The testing done so far was what you see in the video's,and also l lot of testing by way of a generator attached to the motor.
The later was a "behind the scenes" test setup. The generator was calibrated against a motor of known performance,and many variable P/in P/out were graphed.The rotary transformer was then coupled to the same generator,and once again graphs were ploted over many different P/in values and loads placed on the generator.
These results were never posted,and that will become aparent as to why in this thread.
One must also remember that i was only using one of two stator coil's,and the results of the second stator coil being put into service was never shown-along with the generator test.

So for this reason,and to build side by side with those that wish to try it,i have started a fresh build on a fresh motor. I have also been videoing each step as we go,and the first will be up here tonight.

There is one thing i wish to make very clear here, and that is we are building an efficient electric motor ONLY.
This will not become a UFOpolotics thread.
No kits will be made for sale.
No test of performance will be done using light bulbs.
And no one will be asked to leave for having a difference of opinion.-ALL opinions welcome,and looked into.
And "NO CLAIMS" of overunity will be made-unless ofcourse we can self loop the device,and have it run itself.

I know this is Tim's thread,but im sure he would agree with the things stated above. If not,im sure he will let us know.
I will also be continuing the thread on my forum on this update build of the rotary transformer.
http://iaec.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1040
For those looking for information about the original build-it can be found there.

Below is a couple of graph i made while calibrating the standard motor and generators performance curve.
The generator was actualy a DC motor that is identical to the motor driving it.
This turned out to be a very inefficient generator,and we will need to find a better one.
The graph's made using the rotary transformer as the prime mover,will be withheld for the time being.

Im guessing you remember this Mag's?.

tinman

Ok ,this is the first part of my new build. I hope those that are interested in this,put something together,as there is nothing better than being able to have a working device in front of you to test.
For those that use simulator's-well,if you must lol. But im not sure a sim will do motor's? But if they do,then i would be interested in seeing if it come's up with the same results shown in an actual build.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ1xoq7g8Zk

tim123

Nice to see the thread's got some life in it... :)

@Tinman:

Quote...You will find that the pulsed P/in is far more efficient.

I'm prepared to believe it, but I can't see the mechanism yet - esp. when it's not synch'd.

Do you have a variable-speed inverter? It should be easy enough to synch with one of those? Not too expensive usually, Eg:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/inverter-drives/7673040/

tinman

Hi Tim
We dont need to synch anything yet,we can see on the scope what is happening,by using SCR's on the input and output. From this you will be able to see that it is the 100Hz rectified AC that provides most of the output power,and the armature switching only creates noise and very small spike's-just like in the last video of the original.
Like you said,this motor is realy not that good,but it's the best we have at the moment. The statore coil formers are way to wide,and cover to much of the rotor segments.
But all this we can work on,and make it better than it is now.

If i can get that sort of efficiency out of a stock(not well suited) motor,what could we do with one made for the job?.
I made some mod's to the old one,and increased it's efficiency by another 28%. But we will leave that out for now,and concentrate on the build from scratch.

I hope you will be doing a build aswell,and posting some video's of your progress.