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Why not start with what already exists?

Started by carlprad, August 28, 2013, 11:39:19 AM

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conradelektro

Quote from: Liberty on August 29, 2013, 03:02:57 PM
The current policy assures that government looses out on the next level of new technology (which present science won't support or is ignorant about, because government doesn't fund them to look into such things), and that it will not be patented.   

@Liberty: I do not understand your point. I state my opinion in order to have a meaningful discussion:

If some one finds OU or a yet unknown energy source it will be a

Law of nature,
Physical phenomena or
Abstract idea.

And it is very important that it can not be patented. Everybody can then build devices based on this "new insight into nature" or "new science" and can of course patent these devices.

And it is very important that this new

Laws of nature,
Physical phenomena or
Abstract ideas

are independently verified before one starts to believe them.

There is no conspiracy between the government and the USPTO. The USPTO only tries to protect the public from patents which describe "useless devices". You might have noticed that criminal elements try to use patents to cheat people. So, if the USPTO would grant patents based on unproven

Laws of nature,
Physical phenomena and
Abstract ideas

the patent system would be abused by criminals, deluded persons and idiots.

The patent system has many flaws but the treatment of "unproven science" by the USPTO is sensible and it works to the benefit of the public.

Real flaws of the patent system (just to state a few):

- One needs a lot of money to protect an invention by help of patents. Only financially strong individuals and companies can do that successfully.

- It is even more expensive to defend a patent in case it is infringed. Only very financially strong individuals and companies can do that successfully.

- All good ideas can be turned into useful devices (or methods) in many different ways. One can only patent a specific device (or method) and others will patent a slightly different device (or method) doing the same. In fact this is a good thing for the public (if not for the inventor), because it helps to prevent someone from dominating the market.

I am not a defender of the USPTO. I would like that everybody shares all ideas with everybody else, so in fact, I am a (helpless and powerless) enemy of the patent system. And therefore I have studied the world wide patent system extensively. But it is very counter productive to spread rumours and false allegations. The "OU scene" or "alternative science scene" is overcrowded by idiots, deluded persons and criminals. And the amount of nonsense in this scene is unlimited.

Greetings, Conrad

conradelektro

Here, an other big problem of the patent system, not only in the US:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23898080

Citation from the article:

"The Internet Association is among a group of US trade bodies behind a new campaign calling for politicians to take action over patent trolls. Patent trolls take out generalised patents, often on widely available technology, and then demand money from companies who use or offer it."

My opinion: the hurdle to get a patent is much too low. Therefore criminals and cheaters can get a patents on "things" (devices, methods, compounds) which are not new and not inventive.

Greetings, Conrad