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[TinselKoala]

Now I'm really depressed. I think I'll close down my shop and go back to bed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDgokYi-1lI

[Farmhand]

@Farmhand: why do you need the patent if you do not seek wealth and fame?

Greetings, Conrad

Several reasons Conrad,

1) because the sooner someone patents a device harnessing significant energy from a new source the better, it would confirm the reality that it can be done and stir a lot of research and focus it.

2) I would be able to get royalties from people manufacturing and selling for profit so I could better equip myself and do more things, while at the same time allowing people to build their own for personal use, which I think is already legal anyway. Anyone can build any patented device and use it at home, they just cannot make profit from it, unless they pay the patent holder or the patent holder allows them to by not enforcing the patent. As it is I go without a lot just so I can buy stuff to experiment, I'm on a disability pension.
I would need a building permit to erect a high tower as well as pay for labor and materials. I've got things I would like to do. 

3) I would be daring someone to come and threaten me to try to stop me doing it.  I have dark glasses and a suit too, but I am not MIB. I am a man that can wear black suit and dark glasses if I want. Anyone can.

4) Being recognized for inventing something is not what I call fame, it's recognition.

5) A patent does no mean fame and fortune anyway. Many patent holders get nothing, no one might use it commercially until the patent expires anyway.

I could probably think of more. But the main one is validation. People can do patent searches and find it.

[TechStuf]

Wonder if i could do a fund raiser,and get enough to get to the bahama's to test
an overunity coconut

Thanks for making me choke on my saltine cracker!

But you may be on to something.  There's alot of energy in coconut oil....and the vast majority of the population are simply unaware of coconut water's fragile state of being, which partially accounts for the tough, thick shell. 

(Pssst, don't let the cat out of the bag, but coconut water can be fractured at the drop of a hat.)

Hope you don't mind if I kickstart this puppy all the way to Fiji on the "Oasis of the seas".  Wooo!

Pardon me, but is Mai Tai straight?


TS

[Farmhand]

OK-so now i think i have this down pat.
We take a whole lot of others video's on underunity machine's,splice them altogether,add some writen dribble and start rakeing in the cash.

Like you said-if one of us ever has something that will actualy work,and need funding-it'll be all dried up,as the public would have seen the light by then.

Wonder if i could do a fund raiser,and get enough to get to the bahama's to test an overunity coconut.

Tinman, Coconuts are free energy, the "copra" was a valuable commodity in past times.

Copra (dried coconut meat)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copra

The energy required to produce copra would be small compared to the energy it could provide. The tree harvests the free energy from the sun and put's some in each coconut, the Wiki even says that copra is prone to be spontaneously combustive. And is classed as "dangerous goods".

Now if we simply pick up a coconut crack it open and process the thing efficiently I'll bet the oil would contain more energy than it took to get it, otherwise it would be a waste of time even processing them.

There is free energy in coconuts as long as you don't need to buy them. Everything is free until some human puts a price on it.

Cheers

P.S. Looks like the stuff just gives off a lot of heat all by itself.  See link and quote below. Now I am wondering if it might be energetic enough and destabilize into something that could be used for "rocket fuel". I'm researching alternative rocket fuels as it happens. Both solid and liquid. Just for run I'm planning to build a liquid fueled alcohol - H2O2 rocket engine. When i get the required parts for my new TIG welding machine and plasma cutter. H2O2 and bleach makes O2 (oxygen). Something fun for some adrenaline.
Maybe some component of the coconut meat can be used for part of a solid fuel mix.

http://www.tis-gdv.de/tis_e/ware/futter/extrakt/kopra/kopra.htm#selbsterhitzung

The poor thermal conductivity of extraction meal is also of significance to self-heating. Self-heating may occur simultaneously at various points within the cargo and continue to such an extent that carbonization (release of hydrogen, leaving carbon behind) occurs. The resultant fine-pored carbon has the characteristic of starting to smolder when exposed to oxygen.

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[conradelektro]

Several reasons Conrad,

1) because the sooner someone patents a device harnessing significant energy from a new source the better, it would confirm the reality that it can be done and stir a lot of research and focus it.

2) I would be able to get royalties from people manufacturing and selling for profit so I could better equip myself and do more things, while at the same time allowing people to build their own for personal use, which I think is already legal anyway. Anyone can build any patented device and use it at home, they just cannot make profit from it, unless they pay the patent holder or the patent holder allows them to by not enforcing the patent. As it is I go without a lot just so I can buy stuff to experiment, I'm on a disability pension.
I would need a building permit to erect a high tower as well as pay for labor and materials. I've got things I would like to do. 

3) I would be daring someone to come and threaten me to try to stop me doing it.  I have dark glasses and a suit too, but I am not MIB. I am a man that can wear black suit and dark glasses if I want. Anyone can.

4) Being recognized for inventing something is not what I call fame, it's recognition.

5) A patent does no mean fame and fortune anyway. Many patent holders get nothing, no one might use it commercially until the patent expires anyway.

I could probably think of more. But the main one is validation. People can do patent searches and find it.

ad 2) I do not condem "making a profit", I just would like to leave "world saving" and "I do not do it for me" out of the discussion. I accuse everybody of self interest, also myself. And I can not easily stand the self proclaimed world savers and samaritans.

"Validation by patenting": the patent office does not check whether the device functions or not. Only naive persons think that a patent proves anything besides having paid the fees.

But it is not very interesting to discuss an OU device, possible motives and viable routes for action before having an OU device.

And I have seen too many people in the OU forums discussing what to do with an OU device before even coming close to one.

O.k. I believe you will do good with an OU device. Now, please build one and then we take it from there.

Greetings, Conrad