Over Unity (how to get there}

[Floor]

Humorous:) I'm still smiling.
 

                            Gracius senor

[Tusk]

I see energy as just another model rather than reality; say we are sitting watching a statue (perhaps we are bored?) and a steel ball hurtles through our frame of reference colliding with the statue, smashing it to pieces (it's a strange world, you never know) we might say that the energy of the ball transferred to the statue which then converted it into sound (motion of air) heat (motion of atoms and molecules) and an apparent chaotic motion of the now fragmented statue. Personally I would say that a body in motion interacted with another body which resulted in a different motion.

If we calculated all the motion prior to the interaction, and all the motion post interaction we should arrive at the same value; this would be in accordance with both CoM and CoE.

If we could find a way for mass to interact in such a way that more motion resulted than predicted by CoE we could engineer a device to exploit the phenomenon and create an OU system potentially capable of solving many of our energy and pollution issues. I say more motion than predicted by CoE rather than CoM because it seems to me that momentum is not based on a model but on observation of the universe as it appears to be, whereas (to me) CoE is based on a model (energy) rather than reality.

Furthermore, at least in regard to kinetic energy, the literature states :   

the kinetic energy of an object depends on the relationship between the object and the observer's frame of reference. Thus, the kinetic energy of an object is not invariant.

ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy

'not invariant.' I think that means 'variant', but the non-double negative probably stuck in their mouths. So possibly a device which causes a previously unknown or misunderstood interaction between different frames of reference might be worth a look.

I could shamelessly link to my own such device here, but that might be considered a misuse of the thread. Therefore in conclusion, anyone claiming that OU is impossible had better measure their knowledge and intellect against the complexity of the universe then at least leave the door open to the possibility of a higher level above their own perception.

[Floor]

@Tusk

          thanks, post a link is ok
                                 

                                             thanks again
                                                        floor

[Tusk]

Thank you floor, and since it is allowed I'll post two links; the first to a little foray into the realm of perception (which unfortunately most members found overly confronting) and the second to the device itself:

http://www.overunity.com/13079/the-pendulum-bias-paradox-experiment/#.UqjzjSe-g_c

http://www.overunity.com/13102/the-paradox-engine/#.Uqjytie-g_c

If I might add; it must always have been difficult to share new knowledge, history certainly suggests so. I assume that the basic psychology of our species doesn't change that much over time, and it seems relevant to this topic that once an individual gains confidence in their perception of reality it's going to be an uphill battle for anyone attempting to modify it. Therefore one aspect of the 'how to get there' solution must surely involve human psychology, probably with a focus on cognitive dissonance.

[Floor]

@Tusk
                     
                Thanks
                   Awesome post

                                   floor