Overunity (what is it?)

[TechStuf]

MH
You really need to pay attention here,This is not Flatulent Bubbles in the
tub.......

LOL

Don't bother, Ramset, this isn't bubbles in bong water either....but MileHigh still has a while before he can come back down to Terra Firma, curb the munchies, and initiate his due diligence on the matter.



TS

[tinman]

Guy's
We all have our own opinions,and we are all entitled to post them here-thats why were here.But we should all respect others opinions,and not just deem them wrong because we dissagree with them.I think we should also be able to post those opinions ,without the fear of being insulted.Unless we can prove otherwise,then there opinion is just as good as anyone elses.

What we would like to see,is if there is any way that extra energy can come from cavitation in the rotary heater. Once this is proven,then maybe we can start to correct those that shared what they think is right.But until then,we should take all conciderations in account,and be respectful to one- another in the process.

[MileHigh]

TS:

You should listen to Tinman's words of wisdom.  I already told you in a previous posting that my alias just popped into my head, it's not a drug reference at all.  Don't even think about making follow-up comments along that line.

For the clip that Ramset linked to, it's 18 minutes long, perhaps I will get around to it later.  Iron is a very stable atom so I am not sure what they are going on about, and I am not smelling anything real there but I will have to watch the clip.

For anybody that reads this thread, there is a fair amount of "shouting" from you that "cavitation gives you gains!" and you are stating that it's over unity.  I have pointed out to you a few times that Hydro Dynamics makes no claims at all of over unity on their web site.  I have also analyzed a cavitation bubble, and lots of other stuff.   There are about half a dozen points in this thread where I ask you to back your claims up or explain yourself further.  Lo and behold, you have ignored them all.  That tells me, and it tells the readership, that you don't have any technical substance to back up your claims and all of your postings are wishful thinking about cavitation - unless you want to go back and respond to my questions and add substance to your argument.

Going back to the drum water heater.  Imagine it's spinning at 600 RPM without cavitation and producing a flow of hot water representing say 500 watts.  Then imagine it's spinning at 600 RPM with cavitation and producing a flow of hot water representing say 600 watts.  You are shouting and saying, "See, cavitation is amazing and gives you gains!"

What you are missing is this:  When the cavitation bubbles happen inside the drum, the drum produces more heat.  That extra heat doesn't come from "nowhere."   You have two cases where the drum is spinning at 600 RPM.  What's the difference?  The difference is that the drum that is producing the cavitation requires more torque at the same RPM to account for the increased hot water thermal power output.  The drum with the cavitation offers more resistance to the drive motor and therefore requires more torque at a given RPM to output more thermal power.

You are trying to argue that it's "free!!!!!" but it's not free.  You haven't presented any evidence to back up your claims nor have you responded to the half-dozen places in the thread where I asked you to add substance to your argument.

I am more than willing to see you put up some evidence or argue your points.  But for now, cavitation is just "there" and it doesn't do anything in terms of free energy.

MileHigh

[ramset]

Funny You should say that about Iron MH !!

Iron 's place on the periodic Table is DIRECTLY attributed to its ability to do things previously thought impossible.

Thus The whole Synthetic Nuclear reaction ....{in the 18 minute vid]

Studying The Pistol shrimp has paved the way to Unimaginable opportunities that have absolutely Nothing to do with Pseudo and everything to do with real science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba-FeswwGNQ

School is in session .........
thx
Chet
PS
To be Prejudice with out investigation is both arrogant and Ignorant [I should know]
PPs

Start with Roger Stringham in the late 90's, http://sonofusionjets.com/

The Iron discovery being discussed in the 18 minute vid is from the last decade 2005 -08 .

[tinman]

@MH
Im not sure how it would work in the drum setup with the holes drilled in it,but with any other water pump,once it cavitates,the load come's off the motor-meaning it draws less current.This we seen all the time in the mine's,with both the water pump's and hydrolic power packs.We found this out when trying to figure out why the surge breakers kept tripping.So myself and the sparky sat there and would watch the amp meters on the motor's.The pump would cavitate ,and the current draw would drop.But when the pump grabed again while running flat out,it would draw a shit load of current in one hit,and throw the breakers.
So from my experiance,cavitation reduces the load on the prime mover. The same applies for boat.When in my youth,and racing formula 3 tunnel boat's,once you trimed up to high,the prop would cavitate,and RPM would go sky high. That was also the end of the prop aswell-high carbon S/S melted in a flash. Now that takes some heat.

But like i said at the start,i dont know if this would be the same in the drum setup?.