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Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.

Started by synchro1, September 30, 2013, 01:47:45 PM

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synchro1

@Conradelektro,


                        You're inside the induction zone with the coil. Your coil is generating power without the spinning sphere inside at the distance of 100mm where the sphere starts to spin, right? The spinning ball is not slowing the rotor down as you push the coil in towards the rotor, the coil is responsible for that. You maintain that the "Synchro coil" generates the same amount of power with an air core as it does with the magnet core in your first experiment.

                         Lidmotor's flux field is powerful enough to allow him to spin his Maggie sphere entirely free of any rotor induction. Try and determine if the coil is generating any power on it's own without the spinning sphere inside at the same distance like the coil did in your first experiment without the magnet core installed!


Quote from Conradelektro:

"And if I move the "synchro coil" with the spinning ball magnet inside closer to the rotor (to about a 80 mm distance) I can produce the same output as in my former test with the "synchro coil"

The point is you're producing the same output without the magnet core at that distance, so  it's fair to infer you're inside the induction zone with coil and spinning sphere, not outside like Lidmotor with his magnified flux field.

conradelektro

Quote from: synchro1 on December 29, 2013, 02:59:03 PM
@Conradelektro,

                        You're inside the induction zone with the coil. Your coil is generating power without the spinning sphere inside at the distance of 100mm where the sphere starts to spin, right? The spinning ball is not slowing the rotor down as you push the coil in towards the rotor, the coil is responsible for that. Try Turning the coil sideways  and repeat the spin experiment, see if that makes a difference.

                         Lidmotor's flux field is powerful enough to allow him to spin his Maggie sphere entirely free of any rotor induction. Try and determine if the coil is generating any power on it's own without the spinning sphere inside at the same distance!

The "synchro coil" with air core (no ball magnet inside) is producing 18 mV over the 59 Ohm load at a distance of about 80 mm from the rotor.

Turning the "Satellite Coil" sideways does not change much. (It is always difficult to make the ball magnet spin in an uniform way, which depends on friction, one has to try different tilt angles for the "Satellite coil" till the ball magnet spins nicely.)

Attached see a photo of the latest experiment.

Synchro1, the "induction zone" as you call it does extend to infinity in theory. It just becomes more and more difficult to measure the tiny output at greater distances from the rotor. I can not measure the output at distances greater than about 120 mm because my scope can only measure down to 1 mV.

You have to do careful experiments to see that some of your assumptions are faulty.

According to my unimportant opinion and based on my clumsy personal experiments (which could be wrong, but are likely good) the following assumptions are faulty:

- a bifilar coil has magical properties in comparison to a mono-filar coil
- a magnet core has magical properties in comparison to any other core
- a coil with a magnet inside produces power (without moving the magnet, I just did a quick test and will examine that more deeply)
- the "induction zone" ends some where (it only becomes less and less powerful with distance)
- a "satellite Coil" does not slow down the rotor (it is just a coil with a different core which allows greater distances to the rotor, but it causes mechanical problems because the ball magnet has a high friction).

Greetings, Conrad

synchro1

@Conradelektro,


Debunking Quote:


"a bifilar coil has magical properties in comparison to a mono-filar coil".


Where is there anything in your experiment so far far to compare the bifilar and monofilar coil properties?
You're racing ahead of yourself with such rapidity you're betraying your own prejudice!


You just turned yourself into a clown. You can figure out some new direction for this thread because you've heard the last from me.

conradelektro

Quote from: synchro1 on December 29, 2013, 03:38:50 PM
@Conradelektro,

Debunking Quote:

"a bifilar coil has magical properties in comparison to a mono-filar coil".

Where is there anything in your experiment so far far to compare the bifilar and monofilar coil properties?
You're racing ahead of yourself with such rapidity you're betraying your own prejudice!

I am not here to debunk anybody. I am here to do experiments. I am not here to discuss theories endlessly.

I know that my experiments can not disprove anything they can only show measurement results of a particular set up. (But that is the case with all experiments. One can always claim that the "true result" needs an other set up.)

Everybody has to draw his own conclusions. Some conclusions are straight forward, other conclusions might be misguided.

I plan to do more experiments with my magnet spinners and will report the results. But it will take time.

Synchro1, you are entitled to hold whatever opinion you like. It just would be nice if you could support your opinion with real experiments and careful measurements. It would make it more interesting.

Greetings, Conrad

synchro1

@Conradelektro,


What's your objective in the first place? You built some very primitive pulse motors, what are up to anyway?
Can you tell us where you feel you're headed? Your test model so far is nothing to write home about!