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Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)

Started by jbignes5, October 02, 2013, 10:19:57 PM

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I find it hard to believe that all of the measuring devices are measuring magnetics at any point in the video. All of the devices are measuring voltage and voltage only. Those are not current traces they are voltage traces. Although you could extrapolate current on those devices they are not measuring current the way he has them setup.


We all know by now that magnetics are a factor when the electric current flows but in a coil it is very very different. A coil will use magnetic field to choke the current and force the current into a voltage conversion. This is done by segmented coil loops that use self induction as the mechanism of conversion into the electric field. The coil will have a dam of current on say the entry point and a flood of potential on the exit point. If we use DC it will choke the current out as the dam fills and will stop eventually all together.


A capacitor is a direct converter of current to the electric potential on the plates of that capacitor and will exhibit this behavior even faster with DC.. Although there is zero current flowing in the cap when the dam fills. Caps are very fast when compared to coils. Coils have a short in them that allows current to flow momentarily while the dam fills and chokes the current flow down as the dam fills in the whole coil but the cap doesn't do this at all, again there is zero current flowing in between the plates. Two seemingly similar events but very very different mechanisms.






This leads me to a discussion of what is the magnetic field and what is the electric field. Tesla said that in his devices for the transmission of energy that any magnetic field on the antennas was a waste of energy. Why?
Well simply put I conclude this: Magnetic fields collapse in on themselves after the current is stopped. While the electric field is expansive and has no collapse at all. One is constrictive (magnetic) conservative and the other is expansive (electric) or radiative.


This was Tesla argument that Hertz was dead wrong about what radio waves were. We all KNOW that in order to get a magnetic field we need an electric current. We all know that the two are bound together. But in Tesla's description of his transmitter he had stated that he only had a loss of about 2%-5%<---Magnetic field losses, 98%-95% of his transmission was in the electric field. The difference between the magnetic field and the electric field is huge. One is restrictive and near field only (magnetic) and one is radiative and longitudinally oriented or far field capable (electric). both are 90 degrees out of phase from each other. Like a fulcrum in fact or the infamous teeter tauter. One moves in a sideways motion (magnetic) and the other moves in and out longitudinally (electric).


Hertz talked about magnetic waves but we all know that around a coil the magnetic lines are conservative and when the current is stopped what happen to that field? Yes it collapses into the source of that current which in this case is the coil. Those lines do not radiate out if the current is cut off. This is because the magentic field is attracted to itself and is looped. While the electric field is radiating out of the coil and is anchored by the magnetic field lines. Because the magnetic field can not just disappear it converts into the electric field through induction between the two fields. As the magnetic field gets weaker the electric field gets stronger through this conversion and is evident by the BEMF shown in the coil. when there is no more magnetic field the electric field is not anchored anymore and continues on its radiative path away from the coil. I will try to animate this process.


If this relationship starts out without a magnetic field it is considered static electric and for the most part useless. There must be some magnetic field to do the conversion and this is never more evident then from the German made converter that is called the Testatika.[/size]

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In all of the pictures that I have seen there is two magnets that bring the two energies together. The magnets are to organize the static electric pulses into an electric pulse through the use of coils around the horse shoe magnet legs. I don't know if the device is legit but it does show the very same conclusions that I came to about the two fields having to be present to get useful energy out..[/size]

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My point about all this is that in all of our history we have focused on the magnetic and not even bothered with the potential that sets up the electric current. For the most part it got shoved aside and ignored. Since all natural events seem to operate on a different approach that is for the most part current-less I am of the opinion that the magic responsible for all natural events is based on the potential of the electric field and not due to the magnetic portion we chose to focus on.


Lets take for example the Sun. Do you actually believe that the suns magnetic field is the reason or even capable of extending the megnetic field all the way through our solar system to end in the heliopause[/font][/size]? I don't. So the only other force that we know of is the electric far field when dealing with the magnetic near field.[/size]

stivep

 jbignes5
I see what you say.
Electrostatic field  gives us potential of interaction- that is static force but actively  produced.
action = interaction till the next change - (minus) losses.


the same assumption we might  have to standing wave (SW): it is there  and is doing nothing.
Well good assumption, and dead  wrong.
During  SW we have power circulation back and forth due to impedance mismatch at the load side( even if the load does exist at all)
example if the end of 50 ohm coaxial cable is short or is open than the resonant circuit thinks that it is short it does not allow energy to dissipate.
But instead signal is bouncing  between transmitter and the end of coaxial cable. That  adds to additional grief at the transmitter  side( additional heat  factor)
Eventually we are heaving losses to SW because of that.


The rule of law is : first resonate in order to dissipate.( transmit )


In akula or Tesla example  electrostatic field acts as a medium similar to coaxial  cable.
But parameters of coaxial cable must be met ( 50 ohm matching output of the  transmitter )
in order to signal travel inside coax at the first place to the load of 50 ohm and than be emitted out.
Interesting fact is that  in impedance mismatch situation you will see hot spots in the coax by touching it with your  hands.
if than someone will be able to get into this points of  concentrated energy -and try to couple it than in these places there is no heat any longer 
That is why Arunas proposed additional winding along  HV Tesla voltage that has  only 2 sections connected in  series between  themselves (creating  one winding with  2 ends)


It is just that  secondary  winding of Tesla Coil acts as  the waveguide ( the same as coax cable)
Did you ever ask yourself what is the very top of Tesla Coil connected to                       (to  a load capacitor- balancer )( but it is very special one the space 3 dimensional balance)
From now on we are dealing with spacial way of analyzing  dual  resonance effect -where  first winding is in non stop  resonance due to capacitor.




Wesley


 









forest

What is static field ? There is NO such thing  :P

jbignes5

Quote from: forest on October 12, 2013, 02:39:48 PM
What is static field ? There is NO such thing  :P


Really no static field. Then how does a comb attract paper across a distance? Oh wait I remember spooky action at a distance....


The electric field is such a static field but it is in motion and a static field is not in motion. Very simple.

jbignes5

Quote from: stivep on October 12, 2013, 02:35:30 PM
jbignes5
I see what you say.
Electrostatic field  gives us potential of interaction- that is static force but actively  produced.
action = interaction till the next change - (minus) losses.


the same assumption we might  have to standing wave (SW): it is there  and is doing nothing.
Well good assumption, and dead  wrong.
During  SW we have power circulation back and forth due to impedance mismatch at the load side( even if the load does exist at all)
example if the end of 50 ohm coaxial cable is short or is open than the resonant circuit thinks that it is short it does not allow energy to dissipate.
But instead signal is bouncing  between transmitter and the end of coaxial cable. That  adds to additional grief at the transmitter  side( additional heat  factor)
Eventually we are heaving losses to SW because of that.


The rule of law is : first resonate in order to dissipate.( transmit )


In akula or Tesla example  electrostatic field acts as a medium similar to coaxial  cable.
But parameters of coaxial cable must be met ( 50 ohm matching output of the  transmitter )
in order to signal travel inside coax at the first place to the load of 50 ohm and than be emitted out.
Interesting fact is that  in impedance mismatch situation you will see hot spots in the coax by touching it with your  hands.
if than someone will be able to get into this points of  concentrated energy -and try to couple it than in these places there is no heat any longer 
That is why Arunas proposed additional winding along  HV Tesla voltage that has  only 2 sections connected in  series between  themselves (creating  one winding with  2 ends)


It is just that  secondary  winding of Tesla Coil acts as  the waveguide ( the same as coax cable)
Did you ever ask yourself what is the very top of Tesla Coil connected to                       (to  a load capacitor- balancer )( but it is very special one the space 3 dimensional balance)
From now on we are dealing with spacial way of analyzing  dual  resonance effect -where  first winding is in non stop  resonance due to capacitor.




Wesley





Ok have to show this again I guess that explains the reason for the capacitance on the Tesla coil.



I will continue later. Review the documents again made by Tesla. It takes a bit sometimes to digest it all...