Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)

[br549]

Anyone who knows:
I need some help!!!   Refering to the attachment below showing Akula83's system diagram.

Two questions:
1. What does the symbol (that I circled in red) of 2 arrows pointing toward each other mean?
2. Is one of the Magnetic coils wound CW and the other one CCW?
As always; Thank You and Have a Great Evening.
br549

[d3x0r]

Anyone who knows:
I need some help!!!   Refering to the attachment below showing Akula83's system diagram.

Two questions:
1. What does the symbol (that I circled in red) of 2 arrows pointing toward each other mean?

I wondered that too

[/font]2. Is one of the Magnetic coils wound CW and the other one CCW?

All coils are wound in the same direction

[baroutologos]

@ Br549,


Honestly, even if i wondered over the circuit (since i am somewhat fond of circuits) and confused about that biffilar's low self-resonance frequency (still i am till i pulse run my biffilar's too) have not given much thought about the practicalities of this device.

It mixes a few concepts as the need of a ground (for grounding the device rather than sucking energy from it as many theories go), NMR, that we have not even a clue that this process can output energy and a God knows what.

If, really AKula wanted to help, will identify that very fact that "makes the energy", analyse and present it thoroughly along with how to(s), and then let us later worry about assembling a self-looped device. If you make a search, Akula has presented half a dozen schematics over the time that calims OU from them..

[br549]

@ Br549,


Honestly, even if i wondered over the circuit (since i am somewhat fond of circuits) and confused about that biffilar's low self-resonance frequency (still i am till i pulse run my biffilar's too) have not given much thought about the practicalities of this device.

It mixes a few concepts as the need of a ground (for grounding the device rather than sucking energy from it as many theories go), NMR, that we have not even a clue that this process can output energy and a God knows what.

If, really AKula wanted to help, will identify that very fact that "makes the energy", analyse and present it thoroughly along with how to(s), and then let us later worry about assembling a self-looped device. If you make a search, Akula has presented half a dozen schematics over the time that calims OU from them..

baroutologos and d3xOr;
Seems to be some wired sh-- going on with my computer this morning. When I tried to post the last 2 times, I have been knocked off, (clear back to my desk top??.  Anyway if no one knows, I will probabley wind the magnet coil CW a seperate cardboard tube (with the aluminum split tube under it) that will slip inside of my current bifilar coil, test it, and then rewind CCW, (only need to unwind and re-wind the top layer.
If both of the coils are wound in the same direction, then there magnetic fields will be opposit, and buck each other. Where as if they are wound in oppisit directions, (CCW and CW) then there magnetic fields will be the same direction and add to each other. (I would realy like to get it right the first time for a change (hummm). "Whats the odds of that happening  . The two arrows pointing towards each other seem to suggest that the two magnet coils are opposing each other, why would that be.
Also it looks like the length of the magnet coil is 1/3 the length of the bifilar coil, and the diameter of the wire for the magnet coil is twice that of the bifilar coil, which would make the coil lengths (on the tube) all the same. It would be interesting to see a scope shot in real time of the magnet coil, bifilar coil, and the primary and secondary of the Tesla Coil, of Akula83's device while operating (4 channel scope).

As Always, Thank You, and have a great day
br549

[d3x0r]

I hate web browsers... I lose so many thoughts so many times.




Re akula's coil schematic;


what is Elk. magnet?   does it just go to the chart?  Ya, but the chart is 'bi-synchronization unit' which has two jumpers on it... I think that peice is missing schematically.


so the other end of 2..   is that just a capacitor? it doesn't have resonance?  Is it just a stepup from (4)


3: output coil; located at intersection of 1 and (unlabeled, tesla coil)
1: interacts with (unlabeled, tesla coil), and I would assume (2) but maybe it's just the exciter (4).
  - the aluminum forms a topload... which will be coupled with the capacitance of the (unlabeled)


2: again, is it just an LC tank? is it high resistance and low capacitance?


considering Dally's scheme; he has an LC tank; loop antenna, but this is only effective in the near frequencies... it'll fail as the system drifts, so probably this is a thing that should be added after; otherwise it's the intersection of a resonant tank of a stepup toroid and an inner coil, and the outside is a high potential pulse;  when the load has a poor inductance matching on my mazilli I can get such a pulse.  The pulse shows up as a postiive potential on all conductors in the area.... that is the other coils don't induce it, because both ends are both positive... and yes the scope probes themselves in the area also sense it, but it is more significant when attached to another conductor.... But both intersect on the output coil.


A) neither have a ferrous core.
b) a copper strip pickup and grounds that run through coils aren't required... Though a inductor passing through a ferrite tube does increase its inductance...


the copper is also (maybe) a single turn winding?  It's not closed, and there's no connection except to the air, which is to the other tesla coil.... so it really looks more like a topload.




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highest potential, higher frequency (3x)
higher potential, frequency (x)


tuning the exciting side to the side it drives is also a +




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Having read eric dollard's books, lone pine writings, and the 4 quadrant theory thing, I have a better appreciation of the dynamics of this.  He's a good translator between maxwell-steinmetz and me


I had this one mobius coil that was 4 layers.... it worked OK, but I really kinda didn't like it, like there was just something wrong with it.  I think layers matter a lot in this case...


5 layers...


exciter, pickup, output, pickup, exciter
low inductance, high-medium inductance, low-medium inductance, high inductance, low inductance
1, 5, 3, 9, 2

dally would additionally include another stepup before 1...
1,10-1,5,3,9,2   (10-1 is in parallel, with a capacitor)...

I know I'm not making sense, just sketching an idea..... but really

1:x (out) 3x:1

Okay here's where coil dynamics confuse me.

X inductance is going to be less than the tesla's inductance.  But yet, has a lower frequency.

The tesla's inductance is going to have a huge penalty because of length... but having a higher voltage, it's frequency is higher?  but then specifically it's resonant frequency, which includes capacitive reactance, so I guess there's just a lot more capacitance on (1)

but then there's the consideration of just length of wire, which itself has a wavelength.... but again the longer wire in the tesla is going to be a lower frequency... so if I project multiple waves on the coil... so only a small portion at the bottom is induced with the secondary... then the ... stupid rotational phase thing can align on a higher frequency, giving multiple node points in the tesla tower... maybe a quarter wave of the quarter wave?  It's driven not free oscillating...

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no words from akula in a while; did he run into technical difficulties?  I hope all is well.  I see others replicating too; this time I don't have a strong desire to be the first replication... but I think I can build a functional model... akula's system looks fairly robust; in that the logic follows the tuning, so having the coils, he should just be able to plug in the logic parts and demonstrate power?  Maybe he waiting for a sufficient load?

Some of his last interactions, make me think that he's not actually the guy in the videos?  he's questioning things on dally's and criticising other inventors instead of just going ahead with his own installation?  I dunno I think too much probably; he complained that the content was pirated on stive's channel... or was he saying that he had pirated it?


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I was playing with a particle simulation, simple gravity, electrostatic, magnetic behavior on particles... so I was modelling the magnetism, and playing with magnets, trying to establish the forces.... If two magnets are aligned with their poles to the north, and then offset so they can be passed by each other's sides, so the north is forced to remain up, the torque force increases, up to the point that the plane of the south pole passes the plane of the north pole... almost asymptotically but then starts to repel that pole instead of attracting the south to face the north, and a lateral translation force starts to apply more also.

Somewhat reminds me that when having a scope on AC, there is a spikey effect at the very top of the wave... but that's probably a comosite of all the reactance from the system... since most things are bridge rectified first, the 0.7V difference in switching time's... But maybe as the north and south pass each other there's a significantly higher force than would be expected.