Building a self looping "SMOT"

[elecar]

Hi Gyula,
            Yes I really do have a working prototype. It runs for as long as I am able to stand the noise. I tried running more than 1 ball but sometimes they catch up to each other and cause a complete stop.

I had to be careful when making the application and I knew not to use the term perpetual or overunity and I still do not claim either.

Up to now I have had no problem running a single ball, however as you have mentioned I suspect that the ball may get magnetised over time which may bring it to a halt or at the very least mess up the operation. But then I have not claimed perpetual motion nor over unity.

As far as extracting any usable  energy goes I can only imagine something simple like peizo, the biggest problem is the incline is so shallow that the speed is pretty much unusable, perhaps as I mentioned elsewhere in the forums the high road low road effect may be a way of getting some speed and possibly some work from the ball.

[maw2432]

Elecar,
This gets more interesting as you comment.  Can you post or send us video now that you are protected via patent pending?
Bill

[elecar]

 

Hi Bill,
          I have to be honest I have never timed the runs, I can tell you that I did leave one test running whilst we went shopping and returned over 3 hours later and it was still running. I knew I would run into trouble when I claimed I would not be showing my design for a while, of course it appears like a dodge and I accept that. But the simple truth is I am talking with a toy manufacture who is interested in the design, and for that reason I am holding off disclosing my prototype. I am however not keeping the working details away from anyone. And a self build should be reasonably easy for anyone with some simple DIY skills and a bit of spare time on their hands.
If you just want to see my model running you should visit the thread in the future when I will post a video, I promised on another thread I would do that and I will post that video in the near future.

[Poit]

Hi,
I have been interested in "SMOTS" for a while, you say you are helping people build them if they want. *puts hand up*, email poit187@gmail.com if you prefer?

in summary, I would like help building it

Thank you
Pete

[conradelektro]

Where the energy comes from:

In the attached drawing I have indicated how the steel ball consumes energy.

By a "run" I mean: ball runs down the linear start incline, goes around the loop and remounts the linear start incline.

For the 1. run the ball is released at the top (the start of the linear incline, see arrow "1. run"). When the ball comes back from the loop it mounts a little less (as indicated by the arrow "2. run").

After the second run it mounts even less (as indicated by the arrow "3. run").

In practice the ball might only loose 0.5 mm or 0.1 mm at every run, but eventually it will have lost all the energy induced by having it start at the highest point of the linear incline.

The run time will be fairly long in case the steel ball runs very slowly.


And now a question: is there some electronics or mechanical contraption (e.g. descending weight) at the highest point of the linear incline which pulls the steel ball up a little bit when it comes back from a run?

Praise: It is a good idea to break the loop in a SMOT.

Greetings, Conrad