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Building a self looping "SMOT"

Started by elecar, October 08, 2013, 03:34:35 PM

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LibreEnergia

Quote from: elecar on November 06, 2013, 09:14:31 PM
So now the video is a fraud also ? 
What are video compression artifacts ? What is an unambiguous forward time line ?
Yes it stops the track is very poor the ball sometimes contacts the pins, it is uneven and the friction does not help. You have the video you can check it frame by frame, there is no trick no splice no fraud.
I have a cheap Sanyo VPC3600 snap shot camera that has a video feature, no matter what I do, what evidence I supply there is always gonna be someone who will try to discredit it. I will set up the track again and take another video for you, although I think I am wasting my time banging my head against a wall.

Yes, I believe it is fake. It is a video of a single loop repeatedly spliced together to produce twelve consecutive loops.

I base my opinion on the fact that for part of my job I write video display and editing software, and have 25 years software engineering experience. I have in-depth knowledge of the windows media format this file was provided in.

Here are the reasons.

1. The video is not a raw file from the camera. It has been edited in Windows Movie maker. This information is in the file header. In itself this is not proof of forgery, but it means it is not taken directly from the camera and window movie maker is capable enough to produce this kind of edit. Alternatively this application may have been used simply to the convert the file format.

2. The video is shot with a low quality video camera. The video contains significant video 'noise' caused by it the camera sensor. By nature video noise is random.

3. Analysing the video noise from the start of the video to position 11.90 seconds (when the ball is released) shows no two frames where the background video noise in each frame is the same.

4. From position 11.90 through to position 23.400 when the ball is shown looping twelve times it is apparent that IDENTICAL frames are present in the video, including the exact same video noise pattern. The likelihood of this occurring by chance are remote.

I won't post the video or the full evidence yet.

You are welcome to refute these facts and/or provide a video that I would consider genuine.








     




ramset

Tinsel

I think Elecar has done what he says.

I also think you are not on his Christmas Card list!

The Prizes Start at 5 Loops [secret decoder ring and a pack of Chewin gum]

I believe it won't be too long till you see a nice Vid .[perhaps with a cheap clock with a second hand in the Shot]
thx
Chet

Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

happyfunball

Wow, so many self serving pointless attacks on a guy who doesn't claim to have shown OU. Everyone remember to applaud TK's sarcastic unnecessary cheese wheel. Why don't you at least wait until Nov 19th to unleash the attack dogs.

TinselKoala

Quote from: happyfunball on November 07, 2013, 06:49:44 PM
Wow, so many self serving pointless attacks on a guy who doesn't claim to have shown OU. Everyone remember to applaud TK's sarcastic unnecessary cheese wheel. Why don't you at least wait until Nov 19th to unleash the attack dogs.

He claimed to have a self-looping SMOT or smot-like thing that ran for three hours without outside input of energy. That is definitely a claim of OU. He presented a video, definitely claiming to show OU, to LibreEnergia that might be fake. He presented a video here that shows two storages of energy provided by his hands, and yet doesn't manage to make a second loop.

You don't like my video? Why? I freely admit that the cheese doesn't do anything. Did you think it did? Can you provide any kind of rational analysis of my video that refutes anything I've said about it?

Yet my thing makes more than two complete loops, something elecar told us we had never seen before. My "cheese wheel" is neither sarcastic nor unnecessary: it refutes several claims of elecar's and shows how to avoid several questionable "errors" in his video (the one I analyzed; I haven't seen the one LibreEnergia analyzed.)

Can you discuss matters rationally or would you just like to continue insulting me? I think I already know the answer to that, but feel free to demonstrate that I am wrong ... about anything. Of course insulting me is a lot easier.


@LibreEnergia: Thank you for your hard work, however it turns out.

Just for the record: Are you my minion? Am I yours? Do you have any minions at all? Do we know each other, other than our contact on this forum? Do we exchange PMs in secret, chatting behind the backs of the other forum members, plotting how we will suppress Free Energy and serve the interests of Big Oil? Do you have a sponsor who pays you well to post here?

TinselKoala

Quote from: ramset on November 07, 2013, 06:47:18 PM
Tinsel

I think Elecar has done what he says.

I also think you are not on his Christmas Card list!

The Prizes Start at 5 Loops [secret decoder ring and a pack of Chewin gum]

I believe it won't be too long till you see a nice Vid .[perhaps with a cheap clock with a second hand in the Shot]
thx
Chet

Ah. First it was only two loops that would show a miracle. Then when I showed two loops, it became three that was needed. Then when I pointed out that only a tiny additional bit of energy would cause my thing to loop three times, it becomes 5 loops.
(By the way, I can get three loops but not with 100 percent consistency.... yet.)

This is technically called "moving the goalposts", but since I'm not playing a silly game or asking for any prizes really, I'm not impressed or distressed. I do think that everybody should be held to the same standard, though.

Why don't you go to England and see elecar's device? I'll gladly accept your report as factual.