Building a self looping "SMOT"

[profitis]

@tech stuff.ok but let the experimenters try it.

[tinman]

Tinman and TK:

That ramp idea seems nonsensical to me.  Obviously the ramp needs two jolts of energy, one to lift up its center of gravity and the second to impart some rotational inertia.  That energy has to come from the ball.

Am I missing something here?

MileHigh

This is what i was refering to when i asked if anyone could see a way of gaining energy from the system.
This is how i looked at the system.
First i see the standard ramp-ball rolls up the ramp(via the pull of the magnet's),gains so much hight,then drop's out of the ramp.The ball takes a 90* turn,and looses some of it kinetic energy.
So then i looked at how to eliminate the loss at the 90* turn,and to do that,we just get rid of the 90* turn. But this brings us to then have a flat level horizontal ramp-thats been done,and would add no energy to the system,other than to remove the 90* turn on the exit track.
So the next thought was to have an inverted V ramp,so as the ball would go up hill for half the ramp,and down hill for the last half. But once again,things would still come out even.
This is when i thought about leaving the ramp straight,but have the ball follow the inverted path.So this is why i chose a tilt ramp.
So now the ramp tilts,which means more work is being done in the system-but where dose the loss come from?

If the ramp was a fixed inverted V shape,then no losses would result. So why would there be a loss if the ramp tilts?-the ball is still takeing the same path ,in the same magnetic field,over the same distance it would if we used the fixed inverted V ramp.
So we loose half our hight with the ball-thats a potential loss. But now as the ball is going down hill(once the ramp tilts)gravity and the magnetic field are working together on the ball,so we get greater speed on a down hill run.This gain is ofcourse the equal and opposite to the lost potential in the lost hight of the ball.
So the two gains i was talking about ,was the unballanced ramp is now more work being done in the system,as it rotates in one direction,then back to its starting point,and we have reduced the 90* turn to around 3-4*-depending on ramp angle ofcourse.
I see the fixed ramp as a resistor across your power supply befor the load-the fixed ramp is a short to ground.

But MH,i would like you to have a good look at the tilt ramp,and see if you can find where the energy loss would be to tilt the ramp?.

[JouleSeeker]

   The quest to use permanent magnets to drive motion has a long history.

In circa 1997, JL Naudin spent some time on it and a decade later we have Robert Calloway and ClaNZer working on V-gate motors.

Fast forward to April 2013,  Yildiz attempted an ill-fated demonstration of the Yildiz motor in Europe.

Here is a video with a very short historical look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zqG-TL0WnjE

Nothing proved, but this vid has nearly three million views since January 2012... so many are evidently interested in this topic.

[maw2432]

Hi Bill, apologies, I did not forget, I tried to load the 7 1/2 minute  video here and it took some 15 minutes or so, at the end of which I got a message saying that the upload had failed because of the file size exceeded 6000KB.  I then answered 6 or 7 of the masses of PMs I had then went to bed as it was after midnight. I will get you that video up today, it is worth watching.

Hi Elecar,
This was your last post.   Hope all is well.   I also noticed you took down your orginal video.   
Bill

[ramset]

JS
This Vid Is a compilation of "takes" from several different peoples  you tube vids,  His evolution ends in What I believe to be the Roberto33 V gate Motor [determined a scam by those here] I spoke with Roberto [not his name] at that time and he was talking about adding a magnetic array to the inside as well.... so as to assist in getting better results ??

In the clip you posted In my Opinion the most intriguing moments are from the young fellows at the 20 second mark upto the 30 second mark if they could keep that going it would seem a lift of great potential could easily be achieved[with a ramp]

Your Vid here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zqG-TL0WnjE

Thx
Chet