Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share

[hartiberlin]

I think the 137 Watts input I was calculating was wrong, cause I just multiplied
both the Red MATH Voltage and red MATH Current Values in this scope shot;

http://www.overunity.com/14013/reactive-generator-research-for-everyone-to-share/dlattach/attach/129865/

But you can see here in this scopeshot, when you loook at the red Math sine curve, that its highest peak value
is about 306 Watts of positive input power and Minus 187 Watts of returned input power at its lowest value.

Not knowing, what the scope values in there in this Math function for factors,
I can not really say, if the Root Mean Square difference of these 2 values
is really 49 Watts, what the digital Kill-a-Watt type Meter had displayed, or if it is more...
Maybe if we calculate:

306 Watts peak input power / 1.41 = 217 Watts RMS input power

-187 Watt Peak Power returned / 1.41 = - 132 Watts RMS Returned power

(1.41 is the "squareroot of 2" factor for the RMS value)

So the difference is 85 Watts of total RMS input power.

But your Kill-a-Watt type digital Watt Meter just showed 49 Watts of REAL input power, so the Reactive Input power
must be the difference, so 36 Watts of Reactive Input power.

I hope this helps , or maybe I am totally confused and wrong ??

Regards, Stefan.

[gotoluc]

Hi Luc, well,
as it is an AC motor surely it is inductive to the grid and has a power factor which is not 1.
So please also show exactly the change in power factor at this drive motor,
when you apply the load at the generator output.

Please also put a incandescent lamp in series with the drive motor, so we can see, if this bulb
changes its brightness, when you draw power from the generator.

You really have to exactly look at the input of the drive motor, what is going on...

Regards, Stefan.

All this was checked before.

When generator prime mover is connected to grid with scope probes attached to it with CSR to measure current, voltage and phase,  there is zero change to all when circuit is connected or disconnected to generator.

You may of missed the part where I wrote I was working with Gyula on this for about a month before releasing the information to see if I could be missing something. Gyula could not find anything and was very surprised to see it had no effect on the generator prime mover.

I am now done with the questions and won't be wasting my time to prove this or that. It is so simple to build since I gave all that is needed, so build it for yourself to prove or disprove what ever you want.

Luc

[hartiberlin]

Hi Luc,
thanks for the additional info.

I am stuck in some software work and private preparations etc...
but I have got a new digital scope and will next year try to replicate it when I find the
time.
Looks like a simple experiment with just the MOT transformers first...

Would be interesting to see, if with bigger transformers you could extract more and more power
by using less input power this way...

Regards, Stefan.

[gotoluc]

Great Stefan,

I'm glad you see that a simple replication is the best way to understand the effect.

All the best to you in this Holiday Season and may you have success with this circuit in the New Year

Regards

Luc

[hartiberlin]

Okay, Luc,
but if you or anybody else is doing this test again,
please also show us the power feactor on your grid Kill-a-Watt Wattmeter during all
measurement steps, so that we can see, if the power factor does change at the input.

Many thanks in advance and also have a nice Christmas season !

Regards, Stefan.