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Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share

Started by gotoluc, November 15, 2013, 04:51:05 PM

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e2matrix

Also note resistance of both pairs on inputs on the MOT measured 0.5 Ohms.   
Now in measuring the AC current directly (not a clamp on meter) I put the Fluke 77 in between the output and the resistor.   That completely changed the reading on the Watt meter from 0.0 watts to 6.2 watts.   The AC current was bouncing around a lot between 0.764 Amps and 0.811 Amps.   I need to go back with another meter to see what voltage I have now but if it's still around 37 volts then it certainly appears to be getting more watts out than in.   
....   With a Fluke 87 III and Fluke 77 together one on voltage across the resistor and one in series with the output and resistor I can't seem to measure voltage or current.   Current was jumping all over the place and voltage was jumping around too but appeared to be in the millivolt range.   Not willing to put my scope across this yet but I do find the above numbers interesting.   Taking values in a worst case scenario it would seem I've got 6.2 watts in and about 28 watts out.   In another calculation I believe I've got 0.4 watts out with 0.0 watts input.   Both interesting....
Just want to add that all of the above are not taking into account some of the more complex measurements and calculations that may be needed in an AC circuit like this.   

gotoluc

Quote from: e2matrix on November 17, 2013, 06:05:12 PM
Well I tried the basic circuit but lacking the exact high wattage resistor and much in the way of HV caps I was limited in my test to this:
One big A** MOT with two pair of heavy gauge inputs and one thin gauge pair (HV output)
a 53 Watt 5100 Ohm resistor in parallel with another high power resistor that gave me 3.37K Ohms.
a non electrolytic 5uf 400 volt cap.   
First test using heaviest pair of input wires

Watt meter showed 1.0 watts although it bounced down to 0.9 watt sometimes
Voltage across the resistor combo was 0.985 volts

I tried measuring the AC current directly with a fluke 77 inline but it seemed inconsistent reading 0.05 amps one time and 0.01 amps another. 

Second test across the other pair of heavy input wires:

Watt meter showed 0.0 watts
Output across the resisatance showed 37.2 Volts

Hmmm......


I'll try measuring AC current shortly.

Okay, sounds like you are working on it.

You need to tell me what voltage and frequency your grid is if you want me to help you.

Luc

e2matrix

Hi Luc,   I'm on 120VAC 60 Hz.    Thanks for any help here although I probably need to be done for tonight but will look at this more in the coming week.   


Go easy on GL.  ;)   I still think of playing with MOT's as similar to playing with loaded hair trigger guns.  I understand his concern as I'm not fond of MOT's either but for some things I'll take the risk.   

gotoluc

Quote from: e2matrix on November 17, 2013, 06:48:27 PM
Hi Luc,   I'm on 120VAC 60 Hz.    Thanks for any help here although I probably need to be done for tonight but will look at this more in the coming week.   


Go easy on GL.  ;)   I still think of playing with MOT's as similar to playing with loaded hair trigger guns.  I understand his concern as I'm not fond of MOT's either but for some things I'll take the risk.

Your cap is way too low!  you should be in the 30uf range

Luc

e2matrix

I'll dig around but I don't think I've got much in high voltage caps in that range made for AC.   I think I might be able to put some eletrolytics back to back though.   I think that is supposed to work for something like this?   Two electrolytics + to - and - to + in parallel?