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[gotoluc]

Now that Luc has left I was hoping someone else could help me.
I've have been trying out the reactive circuit that Luc suggested to start with, that is a MOT with capacitors in series to the primary and a resistor on the secondary.
My question is this.
Once I tune this to lowest input watts, hopefully 0, what does one do for the next step?
Say you want to place an induction motor or some other load in series with the input what does one do on the output.  I'm not sure if this has been pointed out or not but I don't recall seeing it.
Do you leave the resistor in on the secondary or do you substitute a high voltage capacitor? If so what value do you use as you just tuned the setup with a certain value resistor? Do you just short out the secondary?
Anybody have any insight on this?

Hi Vince,

post your results of the test and I may help you

Luc

[vince]

Hi Luc
Glad to see you back.
I have been trying your circuit but I don't think I'm doing this right because my values are no where near yours. I've posted a picture below to show you my setup.  I have a lot of capacitors but no 1 k resistors so I will have to get some.
With a 4 and a 5 uF capacitor I get 1.1 watts and .2 volts on a 10 k o  resistor
With a 4 and a 5 uF capacitor I get .9 watts and 9.14 volts on 423 o resistor
I know my resistors are not correct but I thought I'd give it a try anyway.


I tried several induction motors in series with the circuit but the small capacitors would not run any motor
When I put anywhere from 130 to 450 u f capacitors in the circuit I was able to run the motors but there was no watt input reduction.
I was able to reduce watts in when I placed 2 110 volt MOT 's in series. It was only 10 watts but it did come down.
What I did find is that if you put a capacitor start motor into the circuit it would pulse and barley run.
Also when I ran the induction motors and loaded the shaft the input watts shot up just like the motor was attached directly to the mains
I know I'm doing this wrong, hopefully you can correct me.


Have you tried a capacitor start induction motor on your setup.  That was a disappointing result because it will need to run that type of motor if it is ever to be used in a looped motor /gen setup.


Vince

[gotoluc]

Hi Luc
Glad to see you back.
I have been trying your circuit but I don't think I'm doing this right because my values are no where near yours. I've posted a picture below to show you my setup.  I have a lot of capacitors but no 1 k resistors so I will have to get some.
With a 4 and a 5 uF capacitor I get 1.1 watts and .2 volts on a 10 k o  resistor
With a 4 and a 5 uF capacitor I get .9 watts and 9.14 volts on 423 o resistor
I know my resistors are not correct but I thought I'd give it a try anyway.


I tried several induction motors in series with the circuit but the small capacitors would not run any motor
When I put anywhere from 130 to 450 u f capacitors in the circuit I was able to run the motors but there was no watt input reduction.
I was able to reduce watts in when I placed 2 110 volt MOT 's in series. It was only 10 watts but it did come down.
What I did find is that if you put a capacitor start motor into the circuit it would pulse and barley run.
Also when I ran the induction motors and loaded the shaft the input watts shot up just like the motor was attached directly to the mains
I know I'm doing this wrong, hopefully you can correct me.


Have you tried a capacitor start induction motor on your setup.  That was a disappointing result because it will need to run that type of motor if it is ever to be used in a looped motor /gen setup.


Vince

Hi Vince,

I've never left!... been checking the posts to see what's going on. You're the first one to post that you've tried my recommended test. So, like I said I'll help those who try.

A 120vac MOT will need double the series capacitance value. I was using a 220vac MOT on 120vac, so in my case mine is in the 20uf range.

You will need to be in the 40uf range with your series cap on the primary and your 423 Ohm Resistor on Secondary.
You should also pickup a 1k Ohm Resistor to further boost your watts out.

Once you have it setup in the 40uf range try adding or removing 1uf at a time and do your calculations.

Using 120vac MOT's and a plugin watts meter I found they may not display the correct watts used. They are not designed to handle returned power. So believe it or not the watts you see are probably returned power and not used power. You will see what I mean after many days of playing around with the values. When I plug my circuit in the generator and have too low of uf value on the primary the generator induction motor can drop 10 or more watts. So that's why I telling people to adjust uf value till you get around 1 watt since you won't know if in the minus range till you cross the balance point.

The best test to confirm you're not using real power is plugging it in a generator like I built and or using an Oscilloscope.

All the best in your experiments

Luc

[tim123]

Hi Vince, I've never left!...

Hi Luc,
  I've been doing a few tests (will do more tomorrow I hope) - using a universal motor from a vacuum cleaner. So far the results are horrific... 

In standard mode - the motor uses 15-17watts to do 80Hz. Using an MOT and capacitor switch box (made for rotoverting) - it's more like 300 watts. There is no 'tuning' as such - more capacitance = more speed = many more watts...

Can you please tell us more about the motor you're using?

Regards
Tim