Super simple way to see proof Pseudo Solid principle works using ring magnets

[MarkE]

@Gammarayburst

Here is a rough outline of a measureing process.

It would be up to you  to decide on which or
what Psuedo Solid operations to measure, as well
as the specifics of magnets types, steel bar sizes
and so on.

Please find the attached file P S measureing.PDF

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                               floor

The procedure measures forces not energies.

[Floor]

@GammaRayBurst

Looking at the third page of the PDF (which is a side view) of the exemplary
measuring device.  Adding weight to the pulley string would at some point
pull the first bar away from the second bar (which is the bar between the magnets)
in the line of bars. (notice that the second bar is illustrated as being pinned with
a screw (see the second drawing).(You could pin / clamp it some other way)

It takes essentially the same amount of force to pull the first bar away from the
rest of the bars,  as the force put out (during an attraction of the first bar)  if it
were approaching / being attracted to the other bars / magnet set in stead of being
pulled away. 

However, measuring only the the force (weight ) required to INITIALLY pull the
first bar from the rest will show only the peak force.  We need show the force of
the magnetic attraction as it is dropping off with distance. A set of measurements
at increasing distances (between first and second bars) is needed to do this. This
SET of measurements can give a very good approximation of the WORK OUT PUT.

But you will be measureing the out put "back wards",,, so to speak. 

There is an error (at least one) in my drawings / explanations, in that the first
measurement of the above interaction, should be done with out a spacer between
the first and second bars. (the very first).

                     Cheers
                           floor

[gammarayburst]

I believe an opposite poles attraction set up with a closed magnetic loop is the best approach for a test fixture to prove that it takes far less work to reset the magnets than the work you get out by the cycling bar shown in the attached drawing. The magnets would need to be in a block of Teflon and the poles recessed .005" at each end of the magnets. The block would be is very slight sliding contact with the polished surface of the bars. The fixture could also be configured in a linear fashion for testing. I can not express how important it is that this Teflon block movement be as friction free as possible and the magnet poles in the block be recessed as close to .005" inch at each end of each magnet.
Thanks, Butch LaFonte

[gammarayburst]

@GammaRayBurst

Looking at the third page of the PDF (which is a side view) of the exemplary
measuring device.  Adding weight to the pulley string would at some point
pull the first bar away from the second bar (which is the bar between the magnets)
in the line of bars. (notice that the second bar is illustrated as being pinned with
a screw (see the second drawing).(You could pin / clamp it some other way)

It takes essentially the same amount of force to pull the first bar away from the
rest of the bars,  as the force put out (during an attraction of the first bar)  if it
were approaching / being attracted to the other bars / magnet set in stead of being
pulled away. 

However, measuring only the the force (weight ) required to INITIALLY pull the
first bar from the rest will show only the peak force.  We need show the force of
the magnetic attraction as it is dropping off with distance. A set of measurements
at increasing distances (between first and second bars) is needed to do this. This
SET of measurements can give a very good approximation of the WORK OUT PUT.

But you will be measureing the out put "back wards",,, so to speak. 

There is an error (at least one) in my drawings / explanations, in that the first
measurement of the above interaction, should be done with out a spacer between
the first and second bars. (the very first).

                     Cheers
                           floor

Let me think tomorrow on this and get back to you. Butch

[Floor]

@GammaRayBurst

For sure contemplate it.   It's your baby, and of course you may
proceede as you like.

The whole process of measuring and so on is NOT something I am
an expert on in regrd to magnet forces.  But it is some thing I intend to
become a master of eventually. The process of determining the ratios of the
forces will not tell us the power available (power being the ratio of work to time)

But  the ratios of work in to work out (before losses such as friction and
acceleration against inertia) will be the same as the ratio of power in to
power out (Maybe)?

The attractions may behave close to prediction arrived at by applying  the inverse
square law.  I would be interested to see if they do or not.  Dieter may have some
valuable input in this area.

I'm attaching a JPG file on inverse square.  It's part of a study / project I've been
working on.  It's a draft and may contain errors.

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