Electric Motor Geenerator/alternator looped

[markdansie]

In case anyone missed it, here's a 'Q Mo Gen' that's hopefully soon to be available to buy:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Midtech_Energy_Black_Box_Power_Station

Have I heard that before some where like about 40 times

[lumen]

So again I'm not exactly sure what's going on.  Was there any evidence of this device actually providing any free energy?  Is there some model for this device which if you change a parameter you would expect free energy?

Also it, simply on casual inspection appears that everything that's happening in the device is happening because of the battery.  So what reason do we have to believe we can get more than a "battery's worth" of power out of this?  Put another way, where exactly do we think the excess power would come from, if not from the battery?

Sorry if you thought this was an over unity device.

This was an experiment to show how the forces generated from inertial mass are several times stronger than the forces required to cause the effect. (sounds a bit like over unity)

I could have done this electronically (other than the motor providing the force) but using only mechanical components leaves no room to debate the results. The results show that while using only 10% of a force to drive inertial mass, a counter force over 9x stronger is produced.

How can this be used to provide excess energy? That is the question.

[sarkeizen]

Sorry if you thought this was an over unity device.

Research towards overunity devices should probably consist of devices showing an overunity effect.  Even if that effect is debatable.

How can this be used to provide excess energy? That is the question.

Uh but again, all of the motion seems to be the result of having a battery hooked up.  So how could you expect to get more than a battery's worth of work out of this?

[lumen]

Research towards overunity devices should probably consist of devices showing an overunity effect.  Even if that effect is debatable.Uh but again, all of the motion seems to be the result of having a battery hooked up.  So how could you expect to get more than a battery's worth of work out of this?

There are none so blind as those that cannot see! (or are there)

I just setup what is essentially a balance beam with 90% offset on one side and 10% on the other and with equal weights, the 10% side wins!

Is that an over unity device? No because it's not producing an output. Does it have potential to be an over unity device? I would think so.


It's just a test of applied forces where the results are what you would expect. Don't try to make it more than it is.

[sarkeizen]

There are none so blind as those that cannot see! (or are there)

I think people who substitute platitudes for thinking critically are kind of blind.  Don't you?

I just setup what is essentially a balance beam with 90% offset on one side and 10% on the other and with equal weights, the 10% side wins!

Except that you *couldn't* set up a balance beam like that and if you could - you could easily extract energy from it.  So the question is why does it *appear* (to you anyway) as if you had and why is there no obvious way to exploit this?

It's just a test of applied forces where the results are what you would expect.

A test usually involves a hypothesis and it's unclear what yours is and if these forces are "applied" what is applying them other than the battery?  Perhaps I miss the point of OU "research" but it's unclear how this is even a candidate for an OU device.  There is no explanation of what you are trying to falsify and the device's operation seems to be fully explained by "There is a battery attached to a motor".

Don't try to make it more than it is.

Dude.  You said: "then this in itself is proof that over unity exists in inertial mass and power could be extracted at no cost."

Are you saying this device is PROOF of OU or not?