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Overunity Machines Forum



M Drive reactionless drive invented by me

Started by M Drive Inventor, December 08, 2013, 01:45:09 PM

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Quote from: LibreEnergia on December 09, 2013, 08:36:03 AM
Obviously you are unaware that there is a difference between the static and dynamic coefficient of friction then. This will easily give rise to the ability to move in one direction using the timing of the thrusts.
I'm aware of the stick-slip aspect of friction. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but that requires that the wheels stay perfectly still against the metal track, as the gyros (in this case), move forward slowly, only to rapidly move backward? I don't see neither of those two things.

Bearings are almost constantly moving, never allowing for the "stick" part, and the gyros move back and forth at roughly the same speed.

Edit: I have hours of footage of the M Drive only moving in one direction, only by pressing one button (like in the two longer clips where I'm barefoot). Isn't it unlikely that I've perfectly timed the button presses each and every time?

LibreEnergia

Quote from: M Drive Inventor on December 09, 2013, 09:02:37 AM
I'm aware of the stick-slip aspect of friction. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but that requires that the wheels stay perfectly still against the metal track, as the gyros (in this case), move forward slowly, only to rapidly move backward? I don't see neither of those two things.

Bearings are almost constantly moving, never allowing for the "stick" part, and the gyros move back and forth at roughly the same speed.

Edit: I have hours of footage of the M Drive only moving in one direction, only by pressing one button (like in the two longer clips where I'm barefoot). Isn't it unlikely that I've perfectly timed the button presses each and every time?

Absolute rubbish. The device moves both backward and forwards. This implies it is stationary at some point in the cycle.

tim123

Hi M Drive :)
  I think your machine is cool! Awesome engineering skills...

However, I'd have to agree with the other guys that you need to put the track on rollers (or something) - so you can see if there is a reaction there...

It's not the smoothest drive I've ever seen... ;)
Are you up for discussing the mechanism in detail, or is it proprietary?

I think the reactionless drive is possible. The 'Dean Drive' passed all the tests, so I read:
http://www.inertialpropulsion.com/dean_drive.htm

Did you make or buy the gyros? I've been considering doing some experiments... I've been wondering if you could use gyros like the 'sails' of a wind-turbine, to 'catch the gravitational wind'. Because they turn any force on them through 90 degrees - perhaps it could be used to harvest gravity... Just a thought...

Regards
Tim

M Drive Inventor

Quote from: LibreEnergia on December 09, 2013, 09:15:51 AM
Absolute rubbish. The device moves both backward and forwards. This implies it is stationary at some point in the cycle.
Stationary perhaps, but not perfectly still for any longer periods of time, which is a requirement for stick-slip.

But this does bring up a good point. I should do a video segment where I show the track and wheels (bearings) more in detail. For instance they've been cleaned with a heavy duty degreaser  in order to remove all lubricants, making them spin with as little friction as possible.

M Drive Inventor

Quote from: tim123 on December 09, 2013, 12:10:55 PM
Are you up for discussing the mechanism in detail, or is it proprietary?

Did you make or buy the gyros?
First of all, thanks! I'm considering putting the "track on a track" so to speak, but if you want some anecdotal evidence, just look at the first clip in the video again. The red wooden panels move relatively easily along my apartment floor towards the end of the video when the machine jerks to the side, but they don't so much as budge when the machine moves forward.

I'm willing to discuss the mechanism in detail if you want. Here's a short description of what's going on.

Basically, when the scaffolding the gyros are attached to starts to rotate, the gyros will want to align themselves with the rotation. In this case it means they "pull" forward. So whenever the gyros are spinning around they will want to pull forward.

When you decrease the rotational speed of the scaffold, springs will try to pull the gyros back to their starting position. It's at this point that the center of gravity of the machine shifts and starts to move forward. It's funny that you mention that 90 degree thing. I have a theory that this isn't a true reactionless drive at all, it's just that the reaction isn't completely opposite, as the gyros would change "the angle of the reaction" by 90 degrees. Although, it's not so much a theory as a random thought I had.

In the videos there's a total of 4 gyros. I had the original ones from the March 2013 clip replaced. All of the gyros were custom made. You can't buy this stuff in stores after all.