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Overunity Machines Forum



M Drive reactionless drive invented by me

Started by M Drive Inventor, December 08, 2013, 01:45:09 PM

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FatBird

I give you an ENORMOUS amount of credit for how much WORK, TIME, & MONEY you put into that.  WOW!

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M Drive Inventor

So what do you guys think of my idea to make the M Drive perform a very similar motion?

I'm planning on making the gyros move around on the scaffold and move back and forth, but without the gyros actually spinning. If the M Drive refuses to budge, would you then believe that the gyros are actually what's causing it to move forward?

Right now it seems like there's a lot of confusion about what's causing the propulsion. Is it stick-slip or some other weird friction thing going on, or is it actually the gyros that are somehow responsible, more or less confirming a reactionless drive?

Oh, and thanks, FatBird.

ingyenenergiagep

Welcome from Hungary!

Build this.
Give me the Nobel prize! :-)

conradelektro

Quote from: ingyenenergiagep on December 10, 2013, 05:07:57 PM
Welcome from Hungary!

Build this.
Give me the Nobel prize! :-)

It sounds unbelievable, but I built exactly that in the early 90ies with two stepper motors; three models, from small to bigger. It did not work, just "slip - stick". But I learned how to program microprocessors and how to drive stepper motors. And I learned about conservation of momentum.

It was still the age of paper photos and only text in news groups at the beginning of the internet age.

I went to my cellar and dug out what is left from these experiments. The biggest model (about 0.5 meters) is gone, only a few electronic boards left. I attach photos of the two smaller models (of what is left of them).

The model with the Lego wheels (still complete) has two very good stepper motors and was the final one which showed the conceptual error quite clearly. It was put on a wooden board which floated on water, well it made no progress. Although "on land" it moved forward quite quickly.

The brown model was the first one and was mounted on various "chariots" and had several additional electronic boards. Of course it worked best without wheels (just standing on the table) because the "sticking" was excellent which made the "slip" work well. I should have realised my conceptual error immediately because of that, but I am a bit slow, so I built two more models before I caught on.

I programmed many acceleration and deceleration patterns (linear, sinus-like, steep peak). It works best with a very pronounced peak (at 180° of the start position).

May it be a lesson to the good people who are able to learn. Hungarian antigravity is goulash, but you have to eat a lot of it.

I did not get the Nobel price but you can try again. Put gyros on the "arms" of this contraption and it will not change a thing.

Greetings, Conrad

ingyenenergiagep

I like goulash :-)

Try again.
We need big acceleration, constant speed,  deceleration.
Horizontal line 0 degree.
1. The arm with weight 45 to -45 degree must accelerate strongly, like a shot. The machine moves up. Newton third law.
2. -45 to -135 degree the  weigt arm turn speed is constant.
3. -135 to  -225 degree (aka 135 degree) the arm weight must decelerate strongly, and gives the energy tho the machine. Like a firearm bullet  hit the energy to the target. The mashine moves up again.

Turn the weight arm with constant speed you get Buehler device, it makes up-down moving only.
You must unconstant speed and strong acc/dec to one direction-moving in space.