Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread

[poynt99]

Brad,

In Canada and US we use 120VAC, but we have two phases coming into the residence. So we effectively have two HOTs and a neutral. If you power something between the two HOT lines you have 240VAC instead of 120VAC.

Glad you will be doing the testing with the generator and hopefully you can explain to Luc why there appears to be no extra load on the prime mover when his phase-shifted load is applied. ION has already explained the effect at OUR as well.

So Luc, I won't be demoing the motor-generator. I will be giving a tutorial on your simple capacitor/load circuit and how to properly measure the power and interpret the results. This will be sufficient to demonstrate where you and others have gone awry with all your claims and assumptions.

And for the record, my assertion about the current probe channel inversion is correct and still stands, despite your disrespectful attempt to undermine my integrity in your video. This too will be proven so that once and for all the nonsense can end about what a NEGATIVE power measurement really means.

[poynt99]

In the mean time Luc, I've taken the time to make this pretty little diagram for you.

Someone presents you with the following physical circuit and diagram, and asks you to use the DVM to measure the voltage across the 4 components; 3 resistors and one battery.

Would you please indulge me, take two minutes to reply and tell me what color lead from the DVM you would use for each test point (TP) for each component, starting from the left at R1 as follows (R=Red=+, B=Black=-):

R1
TP1: R or B?
TP2: R or B

R2
TP2: R or B?
TP3: R or B

B1
TP3: R or B?
TP4: R or B

R3
TP4: R or B?
TP5: R or B

[gotoluc]

In regards to your circuit diagram with this post Luc,what do you mean by both hot sides with 240 volts?. We have 240 here in OZ,and the neutral is 0 volt's,while the active is 240v.

Anyway,i have gathered all the parts to replicate your generator setup,and will start building tomorrow. I will be useing a 24 volt 750 watt DC motor,so as accurate power consumptions can be taken.

Hi TinMan,

glad you're going to experiment.

Canada and US is basically 120vac but larger appliances like ovens, water heaters and clothe dryers use 240vac. So basically our electrical panels have both voltages available. To get 120v you use hot and neutral and to get 220v we combine two separate 120v hot phases and leave out the neutral, so much like a center tap transformer.

Added: I see poynt has answered your question also

Please keep your tests within the range of values of my Tutorial Demos.

All the best and look forward to your results

Luc

[gotoluc]

In the mean time Luc, I've taken the time to make this pretty little diagram for you.

Someone presents you with the following physical circuit and diagram, and asks you to use the DVM to measure the voltage across the 4 components; 3 resistors and one battery.

Would you please indulge me, take two minutes to reply and tell me what color lead from the DVM you would use for each test point (TP) for each component, starting from the left at R1 as follows (R=Red=+, B=Black=-):

R1
TP1: R or B?
TP2: R or B

R2
TP2: R or B?
TP3: R or B

B1
TP3: R or B?
TP4: R or B

R3
TP4: R or B?
TP5: R or B

Hi poynt,

your question is:

"use the DVM to measure the voltage across the 4 components and tell me what color lead from the DVM you would use for each test point (TP) for each component"

my answer would be:

it wouldn't matter which color of lead you use of your DVM if you want to know the "voltage" of each components.

Luc

[tinman]

Hi TinMan,

glad you're going to experiment.

Canada and US is basically 120vac but larger appliances like ovens, water heaters and clothe dryers use 240vac. So basically our electrical panels have both voltages available. To get 120v you use hot and neutral and to get 220v we combine two separate 120v hot phases and leave out the neutral, so much like a center tap transformer.

Added: I see poynt has answered your question also

Please keep your tests within the range of values of my Tutorial Demos.

All the best and look forward to your results

Luc

Interesting power configuration you have over there. We have our 240 single phase,450 single phase,and 450 3 phase.

I will try and make your reactive circuit,but although i have many MOT's,im limited on cap's-but we will see what we can do. But my point with this will be to show you that the power is already stored within your generator,and a load is already present within the generator-even without your reactive circuit turned on.

The one thing that must be remembered is that in order to create the reactive power,we must first have active or real power. Without it,we have nothing.