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Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread

Started by hartiberlin, December 12, 2013, 04:34:12 PM

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d3x0r

So as a thought expansion...


the capacitor on the hot side is an inverter.  The voltage on the opposite side of the cap will be inverted from the line.  This will happen at a slight lag depending on the size of the capacitor to fill; voltage supply is a voltage, and with 0 ohms of resistance to the capacitor, it will move a lot of current at very low voltage to displace the electrons available. 


The load is another delay on the current from common/ground... since a resistance of significant value 10-100ohms will require a lot of voltage on the capacitor (which is already charged electrostatically) and will start to satisfy the cap... displacing current on the other side also; but out of phase with the voltage input...


so by the time you get the the CSR that current really doesn't have anything to do with that input voltage.
Another CSR on the hot side would measure actual power to and from the AC...


think somehow this is a case of comparing apples and oranges....


some notes on the scribbles below;
purple is the voltage; which is a limit on amps too
orange is the voltage on the other side of the capacitor
green/blue is the voltage on the csr
upper right composite denotes where lags happen...

d3x0r

As the scenario continues, the electrostatic exchange will happen at BDC and TDC, right when the diriving field changes from push to pull... but then the whole rest of the pulling phase is delayed until that capacitance has a driving voltage.... until it crosses the zero for voltage again... so the current is delayed more on later cycles than the first cycle.


which I guess is why there's so many spikes at the top and bottom of power...

poynt99

Quote from: gotoluc on January 07, 2014, 10:04:59 PM
That works better!... so it must be out of calibration on ch 1 & 2

Thanks for the good idea

Luc
Luc,

10.2 to 10.6; in terms of the difference, unfortunately that isn't an improvement over your other results with CH1 and CH2. My guess is it's most likely caused by an inherent limitation in the specs of the scope.
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d3x0r

Quote from: wings on January 08, 2014, 11:33:41 AM
a bit difficult to digest but interesting

http://gestaltreality.com/downloads/Symbolic%20Representation%20of%20the%20Generalized%20Electric%20Wave%20-%20Eric%20Dollard%20-%20New%20and%20Remade.pdf

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lmdtem.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6BnCUBKgnnc#t=2625
.....
http://www.energeticforum.com/eric-dollard-official-forum/1631-peter-whatever-happened-eric-p-dollard-41.html#post185949
Not exactly reactive power...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DmAyYhnRgc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7oPv4cPzJk


Personally I found at resonance, that the network was a 10x multiplier... but one cell was as good as 4 or 6... I did not have extreme increases, or even step increases in the network; it is possible that because the coils weren't EXACTLY the same and the capacitances weren't EXACTLY the same that it reduced the effective performance... but then my results agreed with simulations of the same so I didn't worry too much...


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