Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread

[gotoluc]

Hi poynt,

none of the copper wires or coils are connected to anything. The single wire is only connected to the steel cores, so I wouldn't think there's any Inductance.

Please have a look at the next post for an update.

Thanks

Luc

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

please find the test 2 video where I was able to Isolate and accurately calculate all power fed to the signal generator.

This test demonstrates to the best of my ability that power to the load is not coming from the signal generator.

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SucknHDgE6E&feature=youtu.be

Luc

[gyulasun]

Hi Luc,

My first notice is that the signal generator continuously feeds the ferrite rod coil: the 1.263A-1.254A=0.009 Amper i.e. 9 mA change (no problem you mentioned 10 mA in the video) so this change in the input supply current of the sig gen shows that nicely when you remove then reconnect the BNC cable from the sig gen output (video time 6:40 or so) and the green cable to the transformer is unconnected.

And my second notice is that by connecting the green cable to the transformer input to complete its circuit and tuning the sig gen to the 180° out of phase V-I condition, you create an energy balance between the output of the sig gen and the energy picked up by the green cable in that while the sig gen continues to take up the same (or very nearly the same) 9-10 mA extra current (part of which surely continues to go into the ferrite coil like in the case of the unconnected green cable), and the green cable picks up the electromagnetic field of the ferrite coil and feeds it back as additional energy to the transformer input, this is why the green LED lites up. (When I mention the green cable I mean its associated (distributed) capacitance and small inductance what the cores of the MOTs and their hanging wires represent.)

I understand you mentioned removing the (yellow) transformer and substituting it with a Tesla coil what you would also feed with the single wire output of the center tap of the ferrite coil: in this case the green wire and its MOT enviroment would not be needed,  I accept this and I think this would confirm that your load  (now a LED and earlier a bulb, both coupled to the single wire output via the transformer)  is (or would be) fed by an Avramenko-plug-like circuit. In case of a Tesla coil (instead of the yellow transformer) the green wire (and its associated 'network' may not be needed, this would depend also on some factors.

My speculation that the green cable and its 'network' pick up and feed back energy to the transformer input, taken from the transmitted EM field of the ferrite rod coil, could be checked by wrapping up the ferrite coil (and its C core) in a metal box (Faraday cage) so that the ferrite coil should not be able to transmit much EM energy to its enviroment. Of course the enclosure surely would detune the sweet frequency spot so retuning the generator would be needed and notice that the green LED my not lite up at all in this case:  this would prove the picked up EM energy by the green wire in the un-enclosed case. In such metal enclosure, the ferrite cores would be positioned in the middle point of the inside volume and the three insulated coil wires would come out through tiny openings on 3 sidewalls (up, down and left side).

Of course I do not mean you build this enclosure, as I said I believe the Avramenko-plug-like energy transfer manifests in your setup and it is known for having high efficiency and a very little load back effect to the energy source (which I think is the generator through the center tap of the ferrite coil...).

Thanks for showing your findings. Further deductions on energy balance may be done by learning about the real power consumed by the load and comparing it to the output power of the generator. The transmitted energy in the form of EM field by the loopstick antenna would be difficult to estimate though.

Opinions are welcome.

Gyula

[gotoluc]

Thanks for your post Gyula,

here is test 3 with the LED on a Tesla coil and ferrite stick and yellow transformer in a Faraday cage.

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j28oX7rYWHU&feature=youtu.be

Luc

[gyulasun]

Hi Luc,

When I mentioned the use of a Faraday cage I did not mean to use the Tesla coil, I did not mean to change your setup in any other respect, except the presence of an eclosure around the ferrite core coil because in that setup it was the only transmitting antenna.  Now you enclosed the ferrite rod coil, that is fine but created a new 'transmitting antenna'  in the shape of the air cored Tesla coil...  and I did not mean this, sorry.

I meant to enclose the loopstick, yes, and then trying to achieve the same result shown in the now last but one video by connecting the green wire to the yellow transformer to lite the LED again in the same way. Because I think that in that setup the green wire adds picked-up energy to the LED via the yellow transformer and the energy comes from the near field radiation of the loopstick.  I may be mistaken of course.

I will try to interpret your new test of course, I need some more time due to some other commitments.

Gyula