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Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread

Started by hartiberlin, December 12, 2013, 04:34:12 PM

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Ralis

Quote from: poynt99 on January 04, 2014, 10:39:28 AM
And your proof of this is where exactly?

What I actually have said or implied is that the results as demonstrated by Luc in his videos are not what they appear to be. In truth the circuit is behaving in a conventional manner, and I intend to show why.
I have my proof as I have done this before. There is something wrong here but I am not fighting anyone.
This experiment should start with taking measurements with the motor only to determine the power required by the motor to run then continue.
I see too much determination in fighting this cause, extreme determination shows me that you oppose free energy researching or have something against Luc.
this just my view, i might be wrong, who knows!

Ralis

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poynt99

Quote from: Ralis on January 04, 2014, 02:51:59 PM
I have my proof as I have done this before.
Until you show proof, you are simply making a hollow claim, and therefore you can't expect anyone to buy into it can you?

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There is something wrong here but I am not fighting anyone.
Indeed there is, and I intend showing what. Now that I'm back and I have the house to myself the rest of the day and evening, testing is about to begin.

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This experiment should start with taking measurements with the motor only to determine the power required by the motor to run then continue.
Agreed. And it should continue with load testing to determine what load on the generator is required to cause a decrease in the motor rpm. But this won't happen because apparently Luc doesn't understand what I am asking.

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I see too much determination in fighting this cause, extreme determination shows me that you oppose free energy researching or have something against Luc.
this just my view, i might be wrong, who knows!
Yes, you are wrong.
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gotoluc

Quote from: poynt99 on January 04, 2014, 03:27:35 PM
Agreed. And it should continue with load testing to determine what load on the generator is required to cause a decrease in the motor rpm.

So this is what you want to know?

I have shared that 30 watts is the max I can pull out of my gen. Anything above that and the prime mover has to supply more energy in the standard way.

My generator has a 12uf cap for exciter field. Cap connected and prime mover needs about 158 watts to turn gen at 3500 RPM. If I disconnect the exciter cap the prime mover needs about 100 watts to turn the gen head. Prime mover is 3600 RPM max.

Hope this helps

Luc

TinselKoala

I've been following this thread with interest for a while but I haven't felt that I had anything to contribute. Just lurking and learning; I'm dealing with reactive power issues in my wireless power / induction heating systems and trying to learn what I've missed.

I dug into my motor box and came up with a pair of interesting little motors that might enable me to do some experimentation. See the image below. These are antique Delco DC shunt motors. They are constructed just like modern DC "can" motors: wound armature, commutator, brushes, but in place of the magnets in the can motor, these have field coils. The two coils are connected in series and brought out to a pair of wires. The brushes are brought out in another pair of wires. There's no cap or other circuitry, so wiring options are unlimited and easy to implement. It has been some time since I've run these motors, but this is what I remember: The motors run well with separate DC supplies to the field coils and the armature, and there is an interesting relationship between output torque and the voltages one supplies to the two parts of the motor. The motors will also run from a single supply, IIRC, with the field coils in series with the armature brushes. Or maybe in parallel or both, I can't recall at the moment.

Since "mo-gens" are kind of a "hot" topic at the moment, I was thinking about mounting the pair on a board, coupled shaft-to-shaft, with one as "prime mover" and the other as generator. Any suggestions as to hookups, capacitor placement, rectification, etc. so I can start experimenting for myself?