1lb lift-force anti-gravity from ordinary charged capacitor!

[gauschor]

It took a very expensive  and complicated series of tests in 1991-1992  to make a good vacuum chamber and test all the claimed TT brown effects. all configurations were tested. no motion existed when air was gone.

This is the thing which confuses me... on the hand they say no motion exists in a vacuum, but continue the experiments claiming that air ions are not the reason for when it moves. What is it now 

Or is this effect still dependent on air "somehow" (due to inexplicable reasons), although the ion wind is not the primary reason for it? (just to get the understanding right)

[leviterande]

Hello again, just to clear some things up, you don't need air to see thrust of course, all you need is  transportation of matter.  this is why there was  forces observed in some tests in the super vacuum tests.   These strange forces were only with a violent  spark discharge which is a transportation of matter, ions,  molecules, emissions etc...  In any case and at any rate these  forces were not exactly big, they  were around 2x10-4 uN,   iirc

[leviterande]

Hi everyone

I am having a conversation with the editor of the published Doyle article himself.  After discussing my and his thoughts we shared the same opinion that it could be down to one single possible key:

In order for the capacitor to lose weight, the rectified  feeding DC should have as much ripple as possible, that is it should be simply half wave rectified with one diode as seen in Doyle's diagram.  I know this sounds strange as it should be no difference .... but still this is the only last point I can think of.    My flyback was a DST CRT flyback and I am not sure how much ripple it had, maybe it was very smooth and therefore it didnt work. If you have therefore an ignition coil that would be the best.. just connect one diode  for the simplest rectification and highest ripple.

Regards

[tim123]

I am having a conversation with the editor of the published Doyle article himself.  After discussing my and his thoughts we shared the same opinion that it could be down to one single possible key:
In order for the capacitor to lose weight, the rectified  feeding DC should have as much ripple as possible,...

It's an interesting thought... So the factors are:
1) Voltage
2) Dielectric Relative Permittivity
3) And potentially also: Pulse / Ripple amplitude & frequency.

I can remove the end capacitor from my HV transformer - that'll give it some ripple... I should imagine it already has a fair bit.

It seems to me that #2 needs thinking about... Air is a poor dielectric... If you look at the list of materials here, there are 2 that stand out to me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_permittivity

a) Water - Er of 80
b) Calcium Copper Titanate - Er > 250,000

Doyle Buehler got by far the best results with a glass dielectric - with and Er of about 10. Not very high...

The dielectric is probably crucial. Townsend Brown developed a special dielectric - so I read.

I'm in process of making a water dielectric plate for my test capacitor... I've filled a sheet of correx with RO (reverse osmosis) water, and stuck it in the freezer. When frozen, I'll break it out of it's dish, and tape up the edges - sealing the water inside... It should be fun.

Doyle's tests did show detectable weight loss at under 30Kv, so there's a chance it might work with my HVT...

I'm intrigued by the Calcium Copper Titanate - that stuff can really store some energy... It is available to buy in the UK... With an Er of 250,000 - that's 25,000 times more than glass... If energy storage is the key to making those saucers fly - then this stuff will make it easy to build them...

[leviterande]

tim,  voltage and dielectric constant doesn't matter here, what matters is the energy of the  capacitor as long as you are ofcourse above 10kv.  weight loss depends on the energy stored which is a function of voltage and capacitance and you can play with these numbers as you wish.   it is just important to use redundant strong dielectric and glass is cheap, good and strong at good constant of 7.   

I tried water for a dielectric..  hehe  you only need to try it once   water is a high K yes but is a very weak as an insulator and will break down right away just as good as any conductor.  If you want to shield it with any thin  sheets, that would reduce the capacitance greatly  getting you all back to square one. I used glass and it is actually   good, it is not easy to find anything available  with High k and high strength.. therefore glass was used