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My joule thief in cfl.

Started by gregted, May 11, 2014, 11:01:55 PM

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Pirate88179

Quote from: crowclaw on May 13, 2014, 05:26:46 PM
I still seem to have trouble reproducing this image!! as I did in 2009.
If anybody can rescue this again this was the posting containing the image cheers:  Re: Jule Thief  « Reply #11001 on: December 22, 2009, 10:06:28 PM »

I will give it a try to see if it works here:

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

ACG

Quote from: gregted on May 11, 2014, 11:01:55 PM

Is it as simple as an 1800mah battery would run a circuit at 1800millamps for 1 hour.


That calculation is good for a quick approximation.  The capacity ratings are actually computed from drawing a smaller current over many hours.  The greater to current draw the greater the power lost inside the battery.  You would need to see what the C rating for discharge is for your battery such as 1/2C, 1/5C, 1/10C.  1/10C discharge would mean you can draw 180milliamps for 10 hours.  But if you were to draw 1C it would not last 1 hour.

But this being a joule thief you get more out of it by design.  The discharge C rating is the standard for a technically dead battery, there is still LOTS of energy inside it when technically dead.


Is the 220ma measure from the bulb or from the 2 AAA batteries?
Ebay 'brand' :) of batteries are notorious for over stating the capacity.

MarkE

That's all true.  Both Duracell and Energizer offer helpful engineering information on their batteries.  Lots of applications consider an alkaline cell dead at 1.2V.  Better products run them down to 0.8V - 0.9V.  If you extrapolate the curve on page 2 of the attached Energizer AA data sheet, a fairly light load like a radio ~17mA @ 0.8V still has about 510mA hours capacity down to 0.5V, or another 1200J to give.  That's about 10% of the battery's capacity between fresh and 0.8V. 

crowclaw

@ Pirate

Many thanks Bill... Not the best pic as the lens shuts down with the light intensity of course.

Kind regards Merv



Pirate88179

Quote from: crowclaw on May 14, 2014, 02:00:17 PM
@ Pirate

Many thanks Bill... Not the best pic as the lens shuts down with the light intensity of course.

Kind regards Merv

No problem Merv.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen