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Overunity Machines Forum



Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor

Started by NTesla, January 29, 2014, 12:31:49 AM

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LibreEnergia

Quote from: DilJalaay on January 31, 2014, 01:55:32 AM

if i got time i will go to his place 600km.

It looks entirely fake to me. The curiously shaped board it is mounted on is pushed hard against the door. I would wager he is using it to conceal a power cord fed from a power source in the next room.

Such video demonstrations a simply not credible evidence.

e2matrix

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 30, 2014, 04:04:03 PM
Because it is, on the face of it, impossible according to well established laws of physics.
It seems to me well established laws are being broken a lot lately.  A well established idea from scientists some hundred years ago was that man could never fly in a heavier than air craft. 


Quote from: TinselKoala on January 30, 2014, 04:04:03 PMTherefore, for me to believe it I need to see some real data. Not the usual jumbled video of something lighting up some lights. There is no real data in the video, and what is in the video is so easily faked I can think of three ways to do it without even trying. But there is no way that anyone can think of to make a Perendev-Yildiz-etc magnet motor work.
Let me put it this way: I do not think that a poorly educated person making a poorly constructed machine and demonstrating it in the poorest manner possible could make something that works. In Pakistan, France or Texas.
That's quite a leap in thinking to say he is poorly educated.   Do you think all Pakistani are poorly educated.  This guy speaks two languages and English well enough that IMO that makes him educated more than many Americans.

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 30, 2014, 04:04:03 PMThe fact that I do NOT see obvious trickery means he's an adequate trickster. They can't all be Mylows, you know. 

But... take a look at the first frames of the video. Note how the plywood board is NOT quite flat to the ground over near where it's pushed up against the wall or doorway. Why isn't it flat on the ground? What's under that piece of plywood? An extension cord, perhaps, leading over into the next room? 
I've seen lots of warped plywood.  He needed the generator to be held down to something or it would likely have vibrated around and less likely to stay in line with the magnet motor.   Is it possible he was  hiding a wire ?   Sure that's possible but I find it less likely.   How are you going to sell anything if people immediately find it doesn't work?   As Chet points out they have a lot of integrity not commonly found in many places.   That seems 'less likely' to me that it is being faked.   But as always there are those who believe most people are basically good and those who believe most people are basically bad.   

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 30, 2014, 04:04:03 PMWhich is more probable, seriously: hidden wires, or a real violation of conservation of energy produced in a workshop in Pakistan? 
I guess you didn't read Professor Pappas' info I referred you to on the conservation of energy.    COE is more hogwash or should I say brainwashing.

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 30, 2014, 04:04:03 PMYou don't see the motive? I'll bet you dollars to donuts that he has already made a profit.
We can all make assumptions.   I won't say any more about that.


Quote from: TinselKoala on January 30, 2014, 04:04:03 PMSure, me too. It will be especially interesting to see what the Pakistani Taliban will do with a Free Energy device.
Think about it.
That setup is a long way from being a weapon.   But maybe they will be spending more time watching TV and have less interest in their guns.   And with more of their needs easily met maybe they'll be a lot less angry.   At least we could hope but I seriously doubt that it will be any concern for any time in the near future.     BTW I wouldn't normally respond to all your comments but for me it was more of an exercise in trying the multi-quote setup which I have not used (in a long time if at all).   Easy as pie  ;)

e2matrix

Some info from Professor Pappas corrected for typos (he is Greek):
"Clear over Energy with every spark

click here to see photos (not available in this quote)

Over Maxwell electrodynamics, Weber electrodynamics,
(which weber modified, axiomatically, the Ampere force,
to include unecessarilly and ironically the Faraday induction,
and ironically the self destructive, for his theory,
conservation of energy, (which is, also, an axiomtiical dogma
for classical physics, definetely invalid for us and our
present and past experiments), reference: J.P. Wesley, Foundations
of Physics letters, vol.3, no.5, 1990, vol.3, no.6, 1990.)
after, the experimental verification of energy dramatic increase,
(measured by Pappas, see schemtic 5), implying non conservtion of energy.
Though, Faraday's induction is a theoretical prediction of
Ampere's electrodynamics based on the Ampere force alone,
and ignored by Weber and Maxwell !
See also schemtic 5 and its remarks.
your corrections, your questions, your remarks: 

"i do not understand this", your congratulations, your  criticism, your
objections: are welcomed.  Dare to speak to me, dare to argue with me
pseudo-super race, what you can not understand !  What do you expect to
understand,  if you are unable to to understand some of these, so obvious
conclusions your self ?   I can defend proudly all I claim !

As, I am not interested and have no time visiting the pages of
layman of social net meeting, (i.e. face book,... etc), by myself,
if it happens to want (to communicate with me) so, you should invite me
personally first by an e-mail to do so:
mailto:ppappas@papimi.com


Pappas-Amperian electrodynamics, the only real and correct electrodynamics.
      Free  energy and Papimi

Pappas revelation of the Ampere's hidden and covered cardinal law
of electromotive or motional force:

note: do not confuse the Ampere cardinal law with the mislabeled Ampere law
which is his circuital law.

The secret Ampere cardinal law generates energy and the whole electrodynamics,
and more, by the proofs of P.T. Pappas.

The central and key theorem that the scientists of planet earth
do not know, for the secret law below and the force law of lorentz:
click here soon

The most important law of electrodynamics, the secret and hidden Ampere cardinal law,
not found in any contemporary book, the greatest mistake and imperfection of classical electromagnetism:
(image of formula could not be copied as it was a .jpg and can't be pasted in this test on OU)
(last part of formula below - see http://papimi.gr/ to see the rest - just search
for above text "imperfection of classical electromagnetism" to find area where formula is posted)
=rdq1dq2/c  2r  34pe0){c  2-{2v2.v1-3r-2(v2.r)(v1.r)}
including the Coulomb law.
This is one law equation, generates energy, makes modern electrodynamics,
from which, all 4-5 equations in cases when they are correct, -axioms of J.C. Maxwell,
assumed father of today's electromagnetism and more unknown and
exclusive electrodynamic effects, may be deuced.

Say no to field theory, definitely no to the wrong concept of magnetic field b.
Say yes, instead to the cardinal law of Ampere.
Say no to the Lorentz formula, particular to those cases,
which the Lorentz is not equivalent to the universally correct law of Ampere,
predicting more things than the Maxwelian electromagnetism,
to be revealed by us, soon.

The wrong, for individual currents (individual electrons),
formula of Lorentz, found in every book, not though so,
the much superior formula of Ampere:

(again formula is in a .jpg so can't be posted here - see my note above for directions to view it)

Huge mistake and imperfection of electromagnetism,
Geynman, Nobel laureate, attempted to corrected it by another mistake, the existence
of virtual photons of quantum electrodynamics. For god shake virtual reality in physics !
Oor better para-physics !
Einstein, another Nobel laureate, erroneously and ironically, adopted "relativity", for it !
for more see http://papimi.gr  ,  http://papimi.gr/tek.htm  and many more pages there on papami.gr.   Many typos on the pages but tons of information if you can get by the spelling errors ( I assume because English is not his native language and just the sheer volume of info there leads me to believe he spits this stuff out at a very fast rate and doesn't know where the Backspace key is ;)   )

TinselKoala

That's pretty funny, coming from someone who is typing at a computer -- which device is designed according to, its behavior predicted accurately by, it is constructed by devices operating using.... the very principles and dynamics that Pappas rejects !

Yet I don't see anything that is correspondingly designed or predicted by Pappas's alternative to conventional physics, that isn't already covered by what he's rejecting.

TinselKoala

QuoteThat setup is a long way from being a weapon.

That's the silliest thing I've read yet. Of course it's a fake, but IF IT WERE REAL..... it is IMMEDIATELY useful to bad people who have things like AK47s and RPGs. Even with its silly taped-up shaft junction.
And it's immediately very interesting to people like, for example, Mossad, the CIA, and whatever they call the KGB in Russia these days. Does the fact that they haven't snapped up this fellow (and those behind him) and installed him in a secret underground laboratory, perhaps indicate a certain strange Non-Interest? Yet we all know what a boon to any country's National Security such a device and principle would really mean. Or some of us do, anyway.
Look up, will you, the cost of a liter of Diesel fuel or kerosene at the sharp end of the stick up in the mountains of Pakistan and Afghanistan. You might be surprised.