Wasif Kahloon's Magnet Motor

[TinselKoala]

So what makes you think it is fake? 

Because it is, on the face of it, impossible according to well established laws of physics. Therefore, for me to believe it I need to see some real data. Not the usual jumbled video of something lighting up some lights. There is no real data in the video, and what is in the video is so easily faked I can think of three ways to do it without even trying. But there is no way that anyone can think of to make a Perendev-Yildiz-etc magnet motor work.

Just because you think it is not possible or not possible a lesser wealth Pakistani person to make something that works?

Let me put it this way: I do not think that a poorly educated person making a poorly constructed machine and demonstrating it in the poorest manner possible could make something that works. In Pakistan, France or Texas.

Or do you see some trickery in that video?

The fact that I do NOT see obvious trickery means he's an adequate trickster. They can't all be Mylows, you know. 

But... take a look at the first frames of the video. Note how the plywood board is NOT quite flat to the ground over near where it's pushed up against the wall or doorway. Why isn't it flat on the ground? What's under that piece of plywood? An extension cord, perhaps, leading over into the next room? 

I personally didn't see any chance of outside wires or power that could be running it. 

Which is more probable, seriously: hidden wires, or a real violation of conservation of energy produced in a workshop in Pakistan?

But with enough  persistence and motive anything can be faked.   I don't see this guy has any motive to fake this.  First one he sells will tell the story if it doesn't work.   

You don't see the motive? I'll bet you dollars to donuts that he has already made a profit.

Thanks Chet for believing enough to give the guy a call.   And thanks much to DilJalaay for looking into this in person!   I look forward to any details you may be able to share.

Sure, me too. It will be especially interesting to see what the Pakistani Taliban will do with a Free Energy device.

Think about it.

[ramset]

Tinsel
The Pakistani are a wonderful Hard working People ,I never met one whom I would not gladly share the planet with ,and believe me in NYC and surrounds I have met Plenty.

Please don't take this thread there............

Regarding Fraud...selling a product In Pakistan, the consequence is not like the rest of the world they take honesty and intedgrity to a level which I would love to see more of here in the states.

thx
Chet
 

[NTesla]

Thanks Chet i will contact him tomarrow.

As a suggestion...if you could first and foremost ask him to post a video that addresses the concerns of fraud, inc. hidden power sources such as wires, batteries hidden inside the 'alternator' etc then this would mean he does not have to disclose the IP of his invention (that is not already disclosed) while demonstrating to us that the invention has validity. This more tactful approach is likely to have more success than just an outright request for the 'secrets' of his design. Any reluctance on his part to disprove fraud is a strong indicator that the design is indeed fake.

[DilJalaay]

i talked with him, he says he will upload an other video soon, to clear all the doughts.


His facebook is open now.


They are a group of engineers , lawyers, x judges etc. they want this tech open source. i found him
not intrusted in money or businees etc. he say that he will open source it soon.

[DilJalaay]

i talked with him, he says he will upload an other video soon, to clear all the doughts.


His facebook is open now.


They are a group of engineers , lawyers, x judges etc. they want this tech open source. i found him
not intrusted in money or businees etc. he say that he will open source it soon.

if i got time i will go to his place 600km.

by the way it is clear that he is not the main person. behind the scene are some other people.