GEET FUEL PROCESSOR

[sm0ky2]

I never really paid any attention to this story over the years,...
I think it was because of the way Paul talked about this technology. just seemed... (fishy?)
anyways, he died last month, and it caught national attention, so I gave it a good look over.

Now,.. I'm not here to advocate or refute anything in the GEET process.
What I have found, may help anyone interested in what Paul Pantone was doing

Understand a bit more about this process.

I want to take you guys back, about 100 yrs ago.
there was another man named Paul.
Paul Sabatier
a French chemist, that found, at certain temperatures: CO2 + 4H2 -> CH4 + 2H2O + Energy
∆H = −165.0 kJ/mol
(note: an ICE operates at about half the ideal Sabatier Temperature, so the actual reaction is slower)

Thermal Decomposition of water at this temperature, occurs at a rate of ~0.035% by volume.
Combine this with free carbon dioxide in the air intake.....
we have the makings of a Sabatier fuel injector, which in principal should add energy to the fuel system.

This is without looking at the particulars of the GEET system.
This is well founded scientific principal. Because of this, I was willing to give this machine some serious consideration.

Allow me to state:
I believe Paul Pantone was self-deluded to the point of his own detriment.
Every attempt he made to describe his machine leads to more confusion and more questions.
His talks about "plasma energy", and even trying to attribute his results to the peltier effect of steel vs stainless, etc.
He clearly did not know what was going on, only that it worked...

and he tinkered with this to his dying day, even after being held in a psychward for years.
(he pled insanity to charges of ripping off his investors, and they held him for a long time)
At face value, he looks like a scammer, but to his defense he has a few things on his side.

1) most of his major debunkers never really examined the device. many of the claims against it's functionality were made mostly from 'disbelief'. (he did take money from investors and not fulfill his side of the contract)
2) his friends and family vouch for the operation of his engines, even after his death. <- this, to me, gives some worthiness of investigation.

So, lets take a look at this thing....

As stated by the inventor, the effect occurs at a state where the engine is already running, and up to temperature.
So, we have the water heated by the exhaust to the Sabatier temperature.
We have CO2 from the air.
We have H2 from thermal disassociation.
We have Methane, from the Sabatier Reaction
now, he bubbles this back through the water.-- this does two things:
it filters the water back out from the Sabatier Reaction, back into the reservoir.
but also, within the bubbling, there is allowed for increased temperatures (above the normal ICE temp)
These temperatures fluctuate within a range of pressures and volumes of the bubbles,
and increase the rate of thermal disassociation. Allowing for more water molecules to separate, accelerating the Sabatier Reaction that generates the fuel.

Once there is enough heat to start the reaction, it sustains itself, and releases more energy than it consumes.
kind of like lighting a strip of Magnesium.
This is why he has to "prime" it with gasoline to start it, then it can run on water and air.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabatier_reaction

This in a nut-shell describes what (could be) the operating principal of this device.
As far as the actual values of energy involved, amount of fuel production over time, etc.
which would be necessary to build a working engine.....
this will change from engine to engine, heat produced, volume of cylinders, stroke distance,
how much fuel is needed, etc.
So, to simplify analysis, it would be advised to choose a standard test platform.

That's my take on it anyways. There might be something here worth looking into.

[ramset]

SmOKy2
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this, to me, gives some worthiness of investigation.
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Sir,
do you have a specific direction in Mind ??

I know we could muster some proper and quite thorough builds and investigations ...

respectfully
Chet K