Overunity.com Archives is Temporarily on Read Mode Only!



Free Energy will change the World - Free Energy will stop Climate Change - Free Energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world, to power planes, cars, ships and trains.
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.
So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
Those beautiful words were written by Stefan Hartmann/Owner/Admin at overunity.com
Unfortunately now, Stefan Hartmann is very ill and He needs our help
Stefan wanted that I have all these massive data to get it back online
even being as ill as Stefan is, he transferred all databases and folders
that without his help, this Forum Archives would have never been published here
so, please, as the Webmaster and Creator of these Archives, I am asking that you help him
by making a donation on the Paypal Button above.
You can visit us or register at my main site at:
Overunity Machines Forum



Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 18 Guests are viewing this topic.

minnie




  How much energy would be converted to sound by Niagara Falls?
                   John.

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on March 19, 2014, 05:37:33 PM
How was it lost to heat,, it just fell.
"How was it (uninitialized pronoun) lost to heat,,"
"it(another unitialized pronoun) just fell."

You've used two pronouns and did not initialize either one.  Do they refer to one thing that was lost to heat, and also fell?  Do they refer to two different things?  There is no way to really know. 

If you are wondering how it is that energy gets lost to heat, you can always look that up.  Any fluid flow across a pressure drop loses energy to heat at a power that is the product of the mass flow rate and the pressure drop.  Do you own a pump of any kind?  Have you ever wondered where the energy goes when the pump runs?

In the first example of the graphic the pressure drop starts out high and works its way to zero.  The receiving column charges quickly.  In the second example, the pressure drop is always small.  The receiving column charges much more slowly.  First example:  higher power and shorter time.  Second example:  lower power and longer time.  You can do the calculus and find out that the energy lost to heat is the same.  Guess how much it is.  Hint, hint.

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on March 19, 2014, 06:54:31 PM
Grammer Police  LoL,,

Speeeling next :)
No, you refuse to speak in plain English.
Quote

I understand what you are saying MarkE, and when those conditions are there you are correct, I do not know how many times I need to say that.

I am saying that what you do to take the work back out is not the same as ways I would employ,, why waste what you do not need to.
You claimed to already have built a machine that is not subject to these limitations.  You have never produced a diagram or intelligible description of such a machine.  One may reasonably conclude that since in many weeks you have been unable to articulate a mechanism you claim that you have already built, that you have been FoS the entire time.
Quote

You want to know what that method is,  I am not talking about that I am talking about the simple thing that forces applied over a distance can be converted into a different force\distance relationship than what was used to make it.
There we go again, complete unintelligible crapola.
Quote

I know you understand this.
You know that I understand what?  No, I do not even attempt to decode gobbledygook.
Quote

Is the weight on the end of a lever pressure?
No, weight is the force of gravity on some mass.  Pressure is force per unit area.

orbut 3000


MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on March 19, 2014, 09:03:47 PM
We can agree on something then.

Why are you so interested in an old device?
There it is: Pure diversion.  You can't support your claims so now you attempt to dodge by asking why I care about them.  Maybe you forgot that your claims concerning the equalization loss are from another thread and it was you who recently resurrected them here.
Quote

I have shared actual photos of that device to those I choose to share my information with, they have also seen other methods that can be readily adapted to fit this need,, this is just a lever system with a twist,, not rocket science or electronics,, both of which I am not very good at.
It has been your claim that your device is not subject to the N*(X/N)2 loss problem.  You have completely failed to show any evidence that you did so, or that you have any knowledge of any means to do so.  A lever won't get around the problem.  The obvious conclusion is that your claims are false.
Quote

Mechanical things like this are not that hard for me, they are kind of fun.  If this is some "revolutionary" device that would be news to me and a lot of other people.
There's nothing revolutionary, there is only your prevarication.
Quote

Variable geometry levers, and variable ratio levers are not new, stop thinking of using the pressure of the water and think about using the weight of the water,, simple,, well the pressure  would be used but that is no different than an arm with a weight falling down around a pivot, rotating,, BTDT, posted a picture of one of many testbeds.

10:1-1:10, variable, easy and simple,, a CVT does it all the time.
You've had many opportunities to support your claims.  You've failed to do so.  The conclusion is that your claims are false.
Quote

I used to know a guy who was into snow mobile racing,, they use CVT's, some cars nowadays use them as well,, variable gear ratios,, simple.
That's good for him, and completely irrelevant.
Quote

The loss problem from the falling pressure\weight as the water falls trying to lift a small thing\weight first growing to a large thing\weight,, that only needs a variable gear set lever system so that the first step, when it is large, moves more of the small first.
You can keep saying "No it isn't."  You've offered no evidence in the many weeks that you have been doing so.  Your claims have no merit and will continue to have no merit so long as you fail to support them with actual evidence.  Flailing your arms about does not create evidence for your claims.