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Overunity Machines Forum



Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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TinselKoala

And yet you cannot answer the simple question that minnie has asked, and you cannot show us what we need to see. And the reason you cannot is because you don't want to admit to minnie that you don't in fact have the device in question, just an anticipation, and you cannot show a working example of your "technology" because... again.... you don't have any such thing. You just have expectations, opportunities, forward-looking statements and a business plan. You are still paying for electricity at your home, your office and your workshop and you are still trying to get your private correspondents and shills to make what you cannot.

Go ahead, honest Wayne Travis. You could prove me wrong with a single credible YouTube demonstration, or a real scientific analysis of one of your systems, or a scholarly paper in a peer-reviewed journal, or an endorsement from faculty at UofOK's ME campus over to Norman. But I have no fear.... because I know you will not be doing any of these things, for the simple reason that YOU CANNOT. The real Laws of the world were set down by Someone you cannot fool and someday you will have to acknowledge that fact to the only Person who matters.

"The topic of the Video that TK only shows blips - well that is troll behavior....."
I'll take that as permission to post the whole thing, then, rather than the Fair Use for Forensic Purposes single short clip that I've posted. Not "blips", honest Wayne Travis.... I have only ever posted a single short clip, you lying dog.

Pirate88179

Quote from: webby1 on March 30, 2014, 09:56:29 AM


It only take s a few good men to stand up against a tyrant,, I may not be all that good but I am standing up against the tyrant.



So now you see the light and are standing up against Wayne?  Good for you.  It's about time.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

TinselKoala

Quote from: webby1 on March 30, 2014, 09:58:17 AM
Whatever TK,, like this is the first time you missed the small details of the ZED???

Flow assist,, this HAS been explained a few times TK,, so why are you making out like it has not been discussed,  What game is it that YOU are playing TK??  Remember how you missed that NO FLUIDS are shared,, REMEMBER how YOU thought that the assist rams USED THE SAME FLUID as the ZED,, THESE were all about YOU not comprehending the discussion and jumping to your own conclusions.

Are you trying to do that again TK or are you deliberately trying to looked confused. 

Lets try it this way TK,, and see if you can understand simple things,, one bag is expanding and the other needs to be compressed,, the expanding bag can compress the compressing bag more than the expanding bag needs to expand,, it is a LEVER or GEAR RATIO.

So while the expanding bag has an advantage over the compressing bag it uses that advantage, when it no longer has an advantage it still can help another source compress the compressing bag.

The rules are simple TK, common sense and an open mind,, and maybe a lot of "how CAN I make that work" instead of "how can I disprove that" or "how can I twist that" or "how can I make them look stupid",, see the thing there is a positive attitude.

Do you have a problem with your eyesight? In the videos that Travis has released you can clearly see that the bags and their actuating arms are SYMMETRICAL. One is pressed down by the same distance the other one comes up. They are connected by a rigid framework with equal travel on both sides. IT IS A ONE_TO_ONE LEVER OR GEAR RATIO. It is a red herring. Fluid flows out of one Zed, fluid flows into the other Zed by the same amount. It has to be that way or fluid would accumulate on one side or the other!  Good grief man, I know you have better sense than that.

And you can insult and mock me all you like, make the thread all about me, call me names, threaten me with whatever, try whatever distractions you like. It does not matter one whit whether I UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM OR NOT... because I understand one thing completely well: you have not presented any evidence of the "self runner" claim, no evidence whatsoever of the various excess power, harnessing gravity, whatever claims of honest Wayne Travis.... and THAT, webby, is what this thread is really about. What is the evidence for TRAVIS's CLAIMS, and why do you keep denying what is clearly shown in the various diagrams and videos: Fluid flows in one side, both hydraulic and water, and fluid flows out of the other side, both hydraulic and water, and THESE FLOWS MUST BE SYMMETRICAL , or fluid will build up somewhere and you will not have a cyclic system.

Note the rigidly connected, symmetrical system for pushing on the bags, a ONE TO ONE see-saw.



minnie




   Webby,
              it would appear that fluid flows to and fro. I can't see that it makes any difference that there is a barrier.
    I think that if there wasn't some kind of separation it would grind to a halt more quickly than it obviously does
   anyway.
        On the original video you can see one side is stronger than the other, it is in my opinion in the process of
    winding down.
       I tried looking for "super conservative" but didn't have any luck so I think it must be another new term
    to compliment the "Travis effect".
                                               John.

Magluvin

Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 30, 2014, 11:15:00 AM
So now you see the light and are standing up against Wayne?  Good for you.  It's about time.

Bill

Cmon Bill. Why is it necessary to twist his words to mean something else. Is this how one proves their case, by twisting?   Your statement is as false as you say Waynes claims are. ;) So what does that make you in comparison?? ;)

Mags