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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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mrwayne

Smile..
Got it!
You are too smart for me....and my supporters.

Thank you.

LibreEnergia

Quote from: mrwayne on April 04, 2014, 08:26:55 AM

The potential created to lift the load is then used to reduce the cost of the next load..... simple as is simple does.


A big P.S. The first energy transfer function - the load - was supplemented by the other Zeds Second Energy transfer function.

During the lifting of the load - the energy transfer to lift the load - is not consumed...... and the load is production.

That's a pretty HUGE anomaly to chew on.

You simply have the hydraulic equivalent of a see saw. You may even be able to get it to oscillate back and forwards quite a few times by minimising losses caused by fluid flow. Running it slowly would help that. The  FORCES generated during these oscillations may even be quite large , giving hope that if you could some how actually use them to power an external load then the device would generate quite a bit of power... 

However, what you can't do, (and will never be able to do) is actually make the thing run for any length of time while using it to power an external load. The reason is simple.  it does not actually produce any energy. There is no NET Pressure x Volume or integral of F.ds, or however you'd like to measure it produced during the whole cycle.

Sadly for you  that is the nature of conservative systems or even 'super-conservative' systems or any other bullshit pseudo scientific description you'd like to invent to make yourself appear more knowledgeable than your investors.

MarkE

Quote from: orbut 3000 on April 04, 2014, 11:25:16 PM

That sounds pretty much like a confession.
Are your imaginary supporters aware of the fact that your (private) PMS can be detected by precognition-enabled sharks?


And yes, you are. A liar. A fraud. And not the smartest one, by far.


Why else should you waste this great opportunity to put all your critics into
their place by presenting irrefutable proof of your easily refutable claims? You know why.
It isn't as though the fraud Wayne Travis needs to spend time working on his non-existent technology.  Not having anything to work on leaves him plenty of time to come here and lie about it.

TinselKoala

He had better hurry up and present something viable, instead of loafing around on Free Energy forums.

He's losing ground fast to Jimmy Kwok. Kwok has multiple experts with PhDs, multiple designs, patent applications, real working prototypes, even pretty girls. Kwok might even have a patent infringement case against Travis, if honest Wayne ever actually tries to sell a "working" Zed to anyone, since Kwok's designs have been around since 2009 or before.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV5wFTfsTSs

Note the "flow assist" system..... "Reverse Thruster Pressure Equalizer Chamber"....

mrwayne

Quote from: LibreEnergia on April 05, 2014, 01:30:34 AM
You simply have the hydraulic equivalent of a see saw. You may even be able to get it to oscillate back and forwards quite a few times by minimising losses caused by fluid flow. Running it slowly would help that. The  FORCES generated during these oscillations may even be quite large , giving hope that if you could some how actually use them to power an external load then the device would generate quite a bit of power... 

However, what you can't do, (and will never be able to do) is actually make the thing run for any length of time while using it to power an external load. The reason is simple.  it does not actually produce any energy. There is no NET Pressure x Volume or integral of F.ds, or however you'd like to measure it produced during the whole cycle.

Sadly for you  that is the nature of conservative systems or even 'super-conservative' systems or any other bullshit pseudo scientific description you'd like to invent to make yourself appear more knowledgeable than your investors.
Hey missed you...
I am sure it was an accident - but your quote left out the production - Mark does it on purpose -
Notice the term "second" these two actions - the load - which is the output of a ZED and the Stored potential - are two separate things. One is converted to energy for the customer - and the other is transferred - but not consumed - in a SUPER CONSERVATIVE PROCESS - that reduces the total production cost - of the energy to the customer - by more than 50%.
Not yelling - just being clear -
Here is the that post section in full:
"And by the way - the second energy transfer function only needed to cover the lossy system expenses to run closed loop.

Let me break that down - if the first Energy transfer was "only" 50% efficient - the whole system would have still been 100% efficient....... In the ZED - two separate things happen in a ZED - Potential and the stroke of a load.

The potential created to lift the load is then used to reduce the cost of the next load..... simple as is simple does.


A big P.S. The first energy transfer function - the load - was supplemented by the other Zeds Second Energy transfer function."
Thanks for clearing that up.