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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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mrwayne

To All,
One last time, I am going to pretend that TK, MH, ME, Liberia, Powercatt, Minnie, are not just Trolls getting their kicks off insulting people.
I am going to explain in super simple terms:
I will Explain what - I showed the first skeptic, why our engineers joined our team, what the Trolls completely missed or tried to  8) 8) 8)
Proof so obvious -
If it embarrasses those trolls - I tried over and over to warn them to try to understand - instead of attacking good people all this time.
WayneTravis

minnie




    Come on mrwayne, just give us a bit of convincing maths.
     I'll give you a clue, you've got to add something like a bit
     of expansion somewhere. As it stands the ZED is a dead
     thing, it's a stalemate .
                           John.

mrwayne

How to do work without consuming all the energy... 101 ZED SYSTEMS
#1. Bring the load (output) to equilibrium... We call state precharge, it could also be called floating.
#2. Raise the water level and watch as the load equalizes with the new water level.
#3. Notice that two things have occurred.... the load has changed orientation and the water level has increased................
#4. In the ZED - the load is hydraulic output - not weight - so every time the water level rises - the result is hydraulic production.
#5. In the ZED - we push down to go up...... That "clue" was to show that every layer added - doubles the rate at which the water level rises (which results in decreased volume required).
#6. At the end of stroke - after production - all the head - including precharge is still in place.
#7. The LOAD IS LIFTED WITHOUT CONSUMING THE HEAD.....
---------From that point.... you just have to see how good you can design a way to reuse the HEAD.
The ZED layering system increases the head with continued displacement - NEVER in the process do we float up like a balloon under water - our "Neutral Load" just follows the water level.

Wayne Travis

MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on April 09, 2014, 08:03:02 AM
How to do work without consuming all the energy... 101 ZED SYSTEMS
#1. Bring the load (output) to equilibrium... We call state precharge, it could also be called floating.
Apply work.  Get none out.  Check.
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#2. Raise the water level and watch as the load equalizes with the new water level.
Apply more work.  Get none out.  Check.
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#3. Notice that two things have occurred.... the load has changed orientation and the water level has increased................
Work went in, no useful work came out. Check.
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#4. In the ZED - the load is hydraulic output - not weight - so every time the water level rises - the result is hydraulic production.
No defined load.  IE no load.  IE no useful output.  Check.
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#5. In the ZED - we push down to go up...... That "clue" was to show that every layer added - doubles the rate at which the water level rises (which results in decreased volume required).
See-saw of silliness.  Check.  Volume is not energy.  Check.  No useful output.  Check.
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#6. At the end of stroke - after production - all the head - including precharge is still in place.
No useful output.  Check.
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#7. The LOAD IS LIFTED WITHOUT CONSUMING THE HEAD.....
The "load" will subsequently just fall again, doing no net useful work.  Check.  In the meantime precharge depletes.  Check.
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---------From that point.... you just have to see how good you can design a way to reuse the HEAD.
The ZED layering system increases the head with continued displacement - NEVER in the process do we float up like a balloon under water - our "Neutral Load" just follows the water level.

Wayne Travis
Your contraption uselessly lifts and lowers its internal weights until the precharge energy runs out.  Check. 

minnie




    Ah,
        "we push down to go up"  so that's not classed as doing work?
     Ever used a foot pump with a tire?
      We add water, isn't that work?
                 John.