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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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MileHigh

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MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on April 09, 2014, 04:23:50 PM
You are showing that you do not read very well Mark,, go re-read what I posted and you will find that the numbers I posted ARE from your spreadsheet.
As  I have shown the numbers that you posted are not the values for the fields you represented.  You are free to continue performing incorrect calculations.  When you do represent those calculations as your efforts.  Do not misrepresent them as from my work.
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Your force applied values are incorrect,, you can say as many times as you like that they are right but they are not.
I have proven that my numbers are correct.
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Logic question,, for Riser 3 to lift above the AR7-AR6 is it pulled up or pushed up?

Logic question 2,, if Riser 3 is being pushed up by Riser 2, how can Riser 2, the one that is pushing, be lifted by Riser 3?
Does the engine car of a locomotive pull or push the car that is immediately behind it?
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Bootstrapping is not allowed Mark.
You cannot show any bootstrapping by me.  Lord knows that you have tried.
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Force has a direction, and in a proper look at the forces there are more than just those from AR1,, did you draw a free body diagram?
Drawn and posted.  Are you blind?  Or do I need to add force arrows to go along with tabulated force values in the drawing to satisfy you?  This is all hilarious because just a couple of posts ago you were claiming that the sign of force depends who exerts it:

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Quote from: MarkE on Today at 01:20:34 AM

    Tom you are completely clueless.  The force convention is positive for up.  Therefore positive pressure on top of a given riser OD surface exerts a downward, IE negative force according to the sign convention.


I guess we were taught differently,,, I was taught that a positive value is in the direction of the applied force, either in whole or in part, and a negative value is against the direction of applied force, either in whole or in part.
End comment, the water in AR7 can not BOTH move up into AR6 AND lift Riser 3 and then what is causing the water to raise up in AR6,, that has to pull on something :)
I see another attempt at a straw man argument.  You do so love to try and set up and slay those men of straw Tom.  What you refuse to do is learn basic physics.

MarkE

Quote from: MileHigh on April 09, 2014, 07:05:26 PM
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MarkE

Quote from: MileHigh on April 09, 2014, 10:11:52 PM
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