Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[minnie]

  Hi Trolls,
             can any one of you come up with one fact in support of the excess produced by
   a ZED from Red,Wayne,Mike,Tom,Tom or Larry?
       I realise that's going to be a tough question!
                           John.

[TinselKoala]

Ok Trolls,

I add 1+1=2
2 - 1=1

You add 1+1= - 1 lossy system......

SO ME,

HOW MUCH OF THE INPUT INTO THE SYSTEM IS CONSUMED WHILE THE OUTPUT WORK IS CAPTURED?

THE ANSWER- STANDARD LOSSES - 16% maybe

NOT 100%

You owe an apology to Red, Larry, Tom, other Tom, Wayne, Mike, and the other hands on members.

You need to stop slandering yourself with your lies.

No, Honest Wayne Travis. YOU NEED TO PROVE YOUR CONTENTIONS WITH EVIDENCE AND REAL DATA. Until you do, it is YOU who are the lying troll, because you keep avoiding the issue and trying to deflect attention away from the FACTS that you have not, and cannot, produce the required evidence.

You still haven't answered Minnie's simple and respectful question, too.

(It's after 10:30 on a fine Chickasha Thursday morning. And Mister Honest Wayne is still arguing with his pet trolls on the insignificant internet forum instead of working in the lab! What WILL the investors think of that? If he were my employee.... I'd fire his fat ass.)

[MarkE]

You two are so bad...

MarkE TK more diversion....TROLLs

Chalk Board.

THE ZED SYSTEM DOES NOT CONSUME THE INPUT ENERGY - Losses occur as in any system in the world.

Poor Mr. Wayne stuck repeating the same lies over and over.  Your useless contraption consumes all the input energy.  The output energy is less than the input energy.  As a matter of fact you have yet to show any output energy at all.

THE OUTPUT IS A SECONDARY REACTION TO RAISING THE WATER LEVEL - or HEAD.

No, internal movements of your see-saw of silliness does not constitute output energy.

THE OPPOSITE AND EQAUL REACTION IN A ZED IS TH$ INPUT BECOMES HEAD PRESSURE.

Pressure is not energy Wayne.

AND IS NOT CONSUMED EVEN WHILE THE EXTERNAL WORK IS PREFORMED.

You have yet to identify any external load that receives this output energy you claim.  Pressure is again not energy.  I can carry a six pack of soda pop in the trunk of my car all day and the pressure inside will be maintained even as my gas tank runs dry.

THIS RESULTS IN TWO AVAILABLE OUTPUTS FROM A SINGLE SYSTEM.

That's just more nonsensical prose from the fraud: Wayne Travis.

THE EXTERNAL LOAD AND THE HEAD.

There is no external load.

THE EXTERNAL OUTPUT IS USED TO PROVIDE WORK TO THE CUSTOMER

The only work your customers will get is hiring attorneys to sue you.

THE INTERNAL OUTPUT IS USED TO PAY THE COST OF ANOHTER ZED SYSTEM.

See-saws go up and see-saws go down.  They consume external energy.  They do not produce it.

THE LOSSES IN TRANSMISSION - NORMAL TRANSMISION LOSSES ARE MADE UP FOR FROM THE EXTERNAL OUTUT.

In the fantasy-land that you promote: 2+2=25.

THE RESULT - A  CONSUMER OUTPUT

The result is just unfulfilled promises by the fraud:  Wayne Travis.

[MarkE]

Ok Trolls,

I add 1+1=2
2 - 1=1

You add 1+1= - 1 lossy system......

SO ME,

HOW MUCH OF THE INPUT INTO THE SYSTEM IS CONSUMED WHILE THE OUTPUT WORK IS CAPTURED?

THE ANSWER- STANDARD LOSSES - 16% maybe

NOT 100%

You owe an apology to Red, Larry, Tom, other Tom, Wayne, Mike, and the other hands on members.

You need to stop slandering yourself with your lies.

Your disciples of duplicity owe your shareholders apologies.  They owe their prior science instructors apologies for wasting their time by failing to learn what their instructors taught.  Your contraptions are fundamentally lossy in each and every one of their mechanisms.  The composite result is fundamentally lossy.  Your machine requires externally supplied energy just to keep it moaning and groaning.  Your contraptions do not supply any output energy in excess of the input energy.

[MarkE]

  Hi Trolls,
             can any one of you come up with one fact in support of the excess produced by
   a ZED from Red,Wayne,Mike,Tom,Tom or Larry?
       I realise that's going to be a tough question!
                           John.

Of course no one, including any of the disciples of duplicity or even the fraud: Wayne Travis himself can produce any evidence of free energy to be had by cyclically lifting and dropping weights.