Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[MarkE]

This is why I am asking on the riser weight energy part.

If I do not take it out of the input and use the full return then energy has left the building, and with no friction or lost water or air,, where did it go,, plus no heat.

st2estoredtotal                 0.0055107459J
st1estoredtotal                  0.0034123194J
st3estoredtoatal                 0.0036144798J
st2input                             0.0020984266J
ideal output                        0.0016509930J
Riser weight energy            0.0002452732J

Change in riser GPE ST2 => ST3

st1 to st3 return energy       0.0002021604J

Is it?  Assumptions!

Input minus Riser weight     0.0018531534J

Why would you calculate this value?  The input energy required to go from ST1 => ST2 is unaffected by the riser weight Mondrasek has added.

Output plus return               0.0018531534J

Your getting closer, but no cigar.

So using everything in an ideal setup takes the system back to its starting energy level,, and is that not a required condition?

[minnie]

  Am I getting it with my ideal see-saw?
  My see-saw has an equal weight on each side.
  It just sits there, motionless.
  I add a bit of extra weight to one side, the speed depends
  on how much extra weight I use.
  Now one side descends and hits a stop at the low point.
  To get it to move again I have to either remove the extra weight
  from the low side and put it on the high side or put more weight
  on the high side which is sufficient to make it move and overcome
  the extra bit I originally put on.
                    John.

[camelherder49]

When water is about to fall over a dam there is no acceleration without gravity.

[MarkE]

A couple of classic quotes, and some new ones showing how things have progressed to the current situation

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[MarkE]

When water is about to fall over a dam there is no acceleration without gravity.

The acceleration due to gravity:  It's real!
Instructions at the bottom of the reservoir:  "When reservoir is empty, obtain more water.  Condensed atmospheric vapor formed from evaporated sea water is a good source."