Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[MileHigh]

I get a chuckle every now and then looking at the sparring with Wayne.  He tries so hard to pretend that he says things that make sense.  He tries so hard to pretend that he has actually explained something.  He tries so hard to pretend that his "team" are the ones that are in the know and his challengers are lost souls that don't understand anything.  He is dismissive of all comments that point out how ridiculous his statements are.  It's so over the top sometimes that it's hard to believe.  It's surreal, like some 1920s surrealist black and white German expressionist movie.

[mrwayne]

Ok, so lets not introduce any nonsensical statements like 'Super  Conservative' or 'Energy reference mapping'

With out reference to such ill defined concepts, show me just where in your machine that

"Water spontaneously flows up hill",  or
"Expanding air recovers more energy then is required to compress it" or perhaps even,   
"A buoyant object gains more energy when it rises compared to the energy required to sink it".

Have I missed any potential 'simple processes' that might be occurring in your machine?

Yeah, Non sense for now...
One thing a real expert explained to me long ago - don't try to explain - because they will only pick at the words used and not the meaning behind them.
--- Even when the meaning behind them is what is important---
I only have two days left - and none of the questions have anything to do with a ZED
Since you are quoting - I am even more confused...
"Water spontaneously flows up hill",  or
"Expanding air recovers more energy then is required to compress it" or perhaps even,   
"A buoyant object gains more energy when it rises compared to the energy required to sink it".

I have said none of these statements, I do not know who you are quoting?
It is as if you are trying to move our system back to the Magical free energy system???
Only two days left.

[MileHigh]

Don't burst any high-pressure hoses or groaning bellows on your way out!

[mrwayne]

For God's sake why look at forces which are not conserved when trying to see if a machine conserves energy or not?  What is force alone going to tell you that is of any use at all?

Looking at a system to see if it conserves energy..................
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The Zed is not a conserves energy process...... it is a force amplification - with reduced input - which results in NET available energy.
If you are looking for a single process to gain.... you have not understood that our system is not an OU device -
Thanks

[orbut 3000]

The mystery man got nervous
And he fidget around a bit
He reached in the pocket of his mystery robe
And he whipped out a shaving kit
Now I thought it was a razor
And a can of foaming goo
But he told me right then when the top popped open
There was nothin' his box won't do
With the oil of Aphrodite,
and the dust of the Grand Wazoo
He said "You might not believe this, little fella
But it'll cure your asthma too"

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