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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: Magluvin on March 05, 2014, 02:10:25 AM
You act as if there were no water or atmosphere, that gravity and buoyancy coexist still.  Buoyancy can be an effect due to gravity, but it is not gravity itself.  It is just a result of certain conditions  affected by gravity.

Again, you are dodging the question. Show me the quote from Wayne that he states that he can turn 'gravity' on and off. 

So far, I won that bet. Pay uP sucka!!!  lol    Classic dodging.  ;) And typical. ;D


Mags

Mags.... show me some gravity, please.


No.... that is just an EFFECT of gravity you are showing me. I want to see some GRAVITY that you can show me.

Buoyancy is an EFFECT of gravity, because we know gravity ONLY by its effects. And there is no other force than Gravity involved in Buoyancy. Is there any force other than gravity involved in a teeter-totter? Wouldn't you say that a teetertotter's motion is just gravity in action? Well, think about it, the action of water floating a buoyant object is no different than the motion of a see-saw, it is GRAVITY in action, just gravity misspelled.
(And in case you didn't know, the phrase is also an allusion to the statement "love ain't nothing but s e x  misspelled".)

mrwayne

Quote from: TinselKoala on March 05, 2014, 02:19:44 AM
I was not addressing you, Travis, and Mags knows my history and knows that if I say I can demonstrate something... I really can do it. You? Not so much. HONESTLY? You have got to be kidding me. Thou hypocrite, I spew you from my mouth like the drink of lukewarm Zed leakage that you are.Or what, you big bully? Are you going to shoot a spitwad at me? Fail to mention me in your prayers? STOP THREATENING ME.

see how you twisted that comment

I do not threaten you - I am trying to save you from emberassing yourself more.

You missed the ability of the ZED - and all of your attacks are misguided.

I suggest rather than getting stuck on a "decimal point" you go back and look at what Larry shared.

or just stop wasting your own time.

TinselKoala

There is an easy way to control buoyancy, and that is by controlling the volume of the thing that is displacing the water. As I have tried to get over several times, there is a component of the air-water Zed system that acts like the Cartesian diver. True, the OUTER atmosphere interface cannot affect the buoyancy except by its head elevation. But there is an INNER interface too, when liquid volume is injected into the center of the system. The volume of the _compressible air layers_ changes; this changes the volume of water that these "bubbles" of air displace and hence the buoyant forces in the system.... just like the Cartesian diver's bubble is changed by pressure changes to the exterior of the device, transmitted through the incompressible water to the bubble within the _unsealed_ diver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNOXFiJ4IDU

Think about it. Of course this effect cannot occur if the "bubble" is an incompressible fluid.

MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on March 05, 2014, 02:29:22 AM
see how you twisted that comment

I do not threaten you - I am trying to save you from emberassing yourself more.

You missed the ability of the ZED - and all of your attacks are misguided.

I suggest rather than getting stuck on a "decimal point" you go back and look at what Larry shared.

or just stop wasting your own time.
The only ability the ZED has is as a vehicle to raise money from people who do not perform technical due diligence.  Contrary to your false claims, you cannot generate net energy by cyclically lifting and dropping weights.  You can only expend net energy doing such things.  When may we see a report from any professional engineer who supports your false claims?

TinselKoala

Quote from: mrwayne on March 05, 2014, 02:29:22 AM
see how you twisted that comment

I do not threaten you - I am trying to save you from emberassing yourself more.

You missed the ability of the ZED - and all of your attacks are misguided.

I suggest rather than getting stuck on a "decimal point" you go back and look at what Larry shared.

or just stop wasting your own time.
You've threatened me more than once, both veiled and overtly. I am not embarrassed about anything, but I think you are. You have been asked a simple question and you refuse to answer it with "NO" because that would expose you as a false claimant by your own admission, and you refuse to answer it with "YES" because of that silly 8th Commandment. You probably think it's the Ninth, but you know which one I mean. Deut. 5, verses 4 onward.

You are wasting time, Travis, ours and everybody else's. I'm just sitting here watching you flail about like a landed fish.