Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[MarkE]

Thank you MarkE.  And I hope you have a peaceful weekend!  Please do and let's reconvene next week?

BTW, about your ID vs. OD argument on how to properly calculate the buoyant Force on a riser.  It is, in fact, the OD that is needed in your calculation.  Since the riser is ASSUMED weightless by having a Specific Gravity = 0, the riser material is, in effect, just air.  So the riser, and the air inside, is just a big bubble.  Ergo the OD needs to be applied to your buoyant Force calculations.

Gonna sign off now.  Y'all have a wonderful evening.

Cheers,

M.

I conceded the ID vs OD point earlier.  The math you see before you reflects OD.

[MarkE]

This has me a little confused.

If the risers moving up interact with an external ram, is that not delivering the work to the outside?

Does it?  What does it deliver energy to that leaves the system?

[TinselKoala]

Mond, what makes you accuse me of being "hostile"?

Is it the fact that I object to being lied to, er, I mean told things that weren't true, didn't turn out to be true, and aren't true now and aren't going to turn out to be true in the future, by a self-professed Christian saviour of mankind? That I object to being told that I and others that I respect, who have demonstrated abilities, are "not worth our salt" because we insist that honest Travis provide actual data to support his claims? Or perhaps it is because I don't like having simple questions dodged over and over, like "where's the 5hp self runner, do you have it or not" and "where's the three layer system that is clearly overunity by itself, and how do you measure that OU?" Perhaps my reactions to that kind of thing is why you think I am hostile. If so.... you are absolutely right.


If you or I made such claims, even without the overt Christian perspective.... would we not then be very happy, ecstatic even, to provide evidence in support of them, heading off all possible hostility from our critics?

[Magluvin]

Milehigh

Whether you accept it or not, I appreciate that you posted that, and I respect you for doing it in a professional manner. Anyway, just wanted you and the readers to know that. Nuff said.

None of 'us' are perfect. Nobody has to get nasty to accomplish the goals they have here. Why it has to come to being like a kid being bullied on a school bus, day after day, is hard to understand. It happens quite often though. What words would any of you choose to describe the necessity of such behavior? Fun? For who?  The advantages of it seem oblique or just selfish indulgence. Not much good comes of it other than bitterness and knot in the tummy, for some.

Mags

[MarkE]

Milehigh

Whether you accept it or not, I appreciate that you posted that, and I respect you for doing it in a professional manner. Anyway, just wanted you and the readers to know that. Nuff said.

None of 'us' are perfect. Nobody has to get nasty to accomplish the goals they have here. Why it has to come to being like a kid being bullied on a school bus, day after day, is hard to understand. It happens quite often though. What words would any of you choose to describe the necessity of such behavior? Fun? For who?  The advantages of it seem oblique or just selfish indulgence. Not much good comes of it other than bitterness and knot in the tummy, for some.

Mags

There is a vast gap between:  Human error, difference of opinion, and lies told to collect funds from gullible investors.  Everyone makes mistakes.  People often see things differently for any number of reasons.  But it takes a deliberate choice to go into the business of swindling one's neighbors. 

There was not so long ago a perp by the name of Urban Casavant who had phony diamond mines.  He printed all kinds of stock illegally and dumped it in the market.  He hyped up his "diamond mines" and "reserves", while telling investors that the stock was suffering only temporarily by naked shorts selling shares they did not own.  The real source of shares was Urban himself.  Now, this loathsome crook, he had at least one compatriot who made it his business to promote the worthless stock on Christian oriented chat boards.  The general message was:  "You've lived a humble life.  This investment opportunity is God's way of rewarding you."  Investors in Urban's companies pretty much lost one hundred cents on the dollar.

In this thread, despite frequent visits from proponents of HER/Zydro's preposterous claims, we find no information that supports those claims.  We do find a lot of hand waving and suggestion.  We have been told variations of the fraudulent pitch from "The Emperor's New Clothes".  We have been frequently treated to walls of text that amount to so much baffle gab.  Does any of this promote research into anything that even has a chance of being viable?  For all of the details and nuances, the machinery described even in its optimum form that machinery is outperformed by much smaller, cheaper, and simpler devices, like springs and bricks that are themselves not over unity.  If you are upset about disrespect, maybe you should consider how respectful it is to exclaim:  "Praise Jesus!" while picking someone's pocket.

Are events in motion?  We shall see.