Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[mondrasek]

Dude, I'm signing off for the night.

I have asked you which one of the presented ZED models would you like me to Analyze to compare our results.

AFAIK, you have not answered me.  But I do not discount the possibility that we are "talking past each other"

I hope you have restful evening!

M.

[mrwayne]

Not so fast.

From level move the system with an external source.

Now start with one riser up and the other down.

The raised ZED has its bag compressed and the water is inside the ZED.

The lowered ZED has its bag full of water and the ZED is in the rest state and has less volume of water inside.

When the system is allowed to change, the raised ZED's water moves into the bag, under pressure, and expands the bag.

The expanding bag pushes on the lever connected via a pivot to the other ZED's bag.

The other ZED's bag is being compressed to move the water from the bag into the ZED.

So the lever is up on the raised ZED side and down on the lowered ZED side.

The tall pole with weights and the tube is connected to that lever and is leaning towards the lowered ZED side.

As the pressure from the raised ZED is expanding the bag it is compressing the other ZED bag AND rotating the tall pole with weights and the tube, the added resistance of the tall pole with the weights and the tube are converting some of the lost pressure, aka the "tyranny" of it all,, into an elevated GPE, this motion continues until there is insufficient pressure in the raised ZED side to continue, at which time the assist rams are applied.  The raised ZED side still has pressure within the ZED and this now assists the assist rams, as well as the tall pole with weights and the tube has now crossed over the vertical point and is also assisting by dropping the GPE to complete the motion of compressing the lowered ZED side bag and raising that ZED up.

During this cycle of change the raised ZED lowers and the lowered ZED raises.

Webby, I completely followed that.

p.s The bag system always equalizes in the center of travel.

[MarkE]

Dude, I'm signing off for the night.

I have asked you which one of the presented ZED models would you like me to Analyze to compare our results.

AFAIK, you have not answered me.  But I do not discount the possibility that we are "talking past each other"

I hope you have restful evening!

M.

Either you have the:  math, assumptions, logic, and conclusions that you want checked as stated in your OP or you don't.  If you've been blowing smoke for three weeks, then it's been fun.  If you actually have something that took you to an OU conclusion and you want work checked then it's up to you to show your work that you said that you want others to check.  It does not get simpler than that.

[MarkE]

Webby, I completely followed that.

p.s The bag system always equalizes in the center of travel.

So where does the external work come out?  How much external work goes in?  How are the external work in and out values measured?

[mrwayne]

Hello Mondrasek,

A "builder" just stopped by shook my hand and gave me a running Sterno motor!

He drove 80 miles!!!

I love it.

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I will be surprised if Mark ever goes any further with you - he is smart and can surely see the obvious conclusion.

The dodging and diversions and demands, intentional omissions, premature assumptions, degrading comparatives, making self supporting claims, assumed ruler of the universe, and     are much like TK - but I am not yet convinced.

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