Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[mondrasek]

The only thing that I am willing to discuss is the analysis you claimed to have in the OP but you refuse to produce.  Produce your analysis or don't.  If you don't, then you will continue to make it obvious that you have been blowing smoke the entire time.

MarkE, since I find your State 3 that I began to Analyze on Sunday to be in an unstable state (it has a net negative buoyant Force) that issue needs to be resolved or that State 3 discarded.  I will revert back to the Analysis I performed weeks ago.  I posted the three States that I had calculated very early on in this thread and asked for anyone to double check the work.  I thought that is what you were doing.  You chose to pursue a different State 3 which was fine with me at the time.

[mondrasek]

Our Analyses agree through State 2.  However, I am using a greater amount of significant digits and different constants.  For Density of Water I am using 1g/cc while you used .9982g/cc.  For the Acceleration of Gravity I am using 9.81N/kg while you used 9.80665N/kg.  Therefore my results differ from your by a miniscule percentage.  The Energies I calculate are:

Energy in State 1 = 3.41964mJ
Energy added to go from State 1 to State 2 = 2.10293mJ
Energy in State 3 = 5.52257mJ

You can see how those values compare with those you included in your State 2 below.

[MarkE]

MarkE,

I was able to have a fairly efficient lift with a fair amount of recovery from that lift, as gauged by the level of the reservoir to the fluid returned into it.

My opinion was not affected by the "prize" money.

I am not sure why the prize money was paid.  I found out about that after I released information and pictures of TBZED.

My opinion on the function of the ZED system is based on the observation that the ZED does not pick up rocks and drop them.  I observed a change in modality between lift and sink that leads me to believe that the system operates as 2 independent items depending on which way the fluid is moving through the system.

These two systems share all the same parts, fluids and pressures, this took me a while to think through.

The buoyant lift or sink can be changed by changing the direction of fluid flow into or out of the pod chamber.

I had VERY good lifts, and I had VERY, VERY bad lifts,, this I interpreted as meaning that there should be a designed setup for ideal run for a set of given requirements.

I even used TK's videos as something to compare my thoughts with, in those he demonstrated the processes that would need to be present in order for the system to work as I was thinking it might.

webby you talk about the efficiency of lift.  What did you do to measure the energy consumed to get through a whole cycle, or only bits and pieces of a cycle?  Did your mock up have an external output?  If it did, what did you do to measure the energy delivered to that output cycle by cycle?

[MarkE]

Our Analyses agree through State 2.  However, I am using a greater amount of significant digits and different constants.  For Density of Water I am using 1g/cc while you used .9982g/cc.  For the Acceleration of Gravity I am using 9.81N/kg while you used 9.80665N/kg.  Therefore my results differ from your by a miniscule percentage.  The Energies I calculate are:

Energy in State 1 = 3.41964mJ
Energy added to go from State 1 to State 2 = 2.10293mJ
Energy in State 3 = 5.52257mJ

You can see how those values compare with those you included in your State 2 below.

Showing values is nice.  Showing values reached at the end does not show how you got there.

[mondrasek]

Showing values is nice.  Showing values reached at the end does not show how you got there.

Here is the spreadsheet where I recorded all the values that were generated on the Casio calculator that I used.  The calculations were performed "by hand" so there are no formulas in the spreadsheet except to sum the Energies in each water annulus for each State.  Those are at the bottom and were run as a triple check really.  I'll post the equations used as I get to that point in my explanation of the methods I used, why, and the results that you can see ahead of time if you want to look at the attached data.