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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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minnie

#155
February 27, 2014, 02:48:46 AM



  Hi MarkE,
        I've been looking at Larry's drawings and don't quite know what "flow assist" means.
   I realise you're having to go back over all this stuff and more or less start again and I'm
    beginning to sort of understand it.
               Thankyou John.

MarkE

#156
February 27, 2014, 02:58:34 AM
Quote from: minnie on February 27, 2014, 02:48:46 AM


  Hi MarkE,
        I've been looking at Larry's drawings and don't quite know what "flow assist" means.
   I realise you're having to go back over all this stuff and more or less start again and I'm
    beginning to sort of understand it.
               Thankyou John.
Minnie you will have to ask Larry.  I guess that it means external energy added.  Whenever the machine sloshes water from a high column to a lower column it loses stored energy.  The whole gag has been misdirection by Wayne and company away from calculating energy values correctly over the course of a full cycle.  Please see the next post.

MarkE

#157
February 27, 2014, 03:07:08 AM
Larry, I've looked at the latest spreadsheet.  There is still a good deal of work to do here.  Please refer to the drawing below:

We need to either insure that the starting and ending energy states are identical, or else account for the stored energy in each state.    No matter what, we do need to calculate the work added and going from each state to the next.  Knowing the stored energy at all states provides a good sanity check.  Please be aware that each time water equalizes from a taller single column to two or more lower columns that we lose stored energy.  The drawing includes formulas for calculating stored energy under the assumptions previously stated:

20C
G0=9.80665m/s/s
zero thickness walls
25" diameter pod
26" diameter pod chamber
51 circular inch riser gap and riser head areas

minnie

#158
February 27, 2014, 07:01:26 AM



  Hi Larry,
            could you please explain what is meant by "flow assist".
    You show a stop to limit the travel, this would indicate that
    there is stored energy to be accounted for.
            Thankyou  John.

TinselKoala

#159
February 27, 2014, 07:34:43 AM
We have Flow Assists on this side of the Red River too.


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